Thinking LSAT

Thinking LSAT

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  • RIP T14 (Ep. 554)

    The updated rankings for law schools have dropped! Ben and Nathan discuss the changes, the schools that refused to participate, and what applicants should actually focus on when choosing a law school to attend.

    Also in this episode

    - Law school marketing emails wishing students good luck on the LSAT

    - Whether to drop a class and graduate late to preserve their GPA

    - Another Personal Statement Gong Show contestant

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    0:00 USNews 2026 Rankings26:17 #thirstylawschools

    30:05 Test D Question – English Rule

    43:50 Implicit Assumptions

    53:00 Pearls v. Turds

    1:00:03 Should I Upgrade Demon Plans?

    1:05:19 Dropping Courses

    1:11:46 Personal Statement Gong Show

    1:38:38 Word of the week – throes

    1 hr 44 min
  • Oklahoma Gets It Right on AI (Ep. 553)

    Ben and Nathan react to two stories: California pushing to require AI training in law schools, and Oklahoma's surprisingly hands-off approach to AI in the courtroom. They discuss AI’s growing role in the legal field and why Oklahoma’s simple rule, use it however you want, just own every word, might be the smartest policy.


    Also in this episode

    - A viewer performing differently between timed sections and practice tests

    - Whether you can predict future competitive cycles

    - Why the University of Alabama has such a high GPA median


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    0:00 AI in Law School and the Legal Profession

    6:20 How to Get Faster

    20:00 Test D Question – Moving Truck

    38:52 Incongruence Between Sections and PTs

    44:54 Will My GPA Hold Me Down?

    54:22 What’s the Deal with the University of Alabama?

    1:05:36 Word of the Week – quotidian

    1 hr 13 min
  • Emailing for More Money (Ep. 552)

    A listener asks how to negotiate scholarships, especially when schools claim they don’t negotiate. Ben and Nathan advise always asking for more and using competing offers as leverage.  But, they stress the importance of being ready to walk away from an offer that doesn’t meet your needs.

    Also in this episode

    - Handling burnout from LSAT studying 

    - A logical reasoning question about a mushroom allergy

    - Whether job prestige helps in law school admissions


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    0:00 Burn Out. Need Advice.

    17:43 How to Negotiate

    50:45 Test D Question –- Mushroom Allergy

    1:00:36 Studying Abroad

    1:15:28 Pearls v. Turds

    1:21:28 Job Prestige

    1:26:43 Losing Study Progress

    1:36:38 Word of the week – gravamen

    1 hr 42 min
  • Personal Statement Gamble (Ep. 551)

    A listener asks whether they should include their experience as a professional poker player in their application materials. Ben and Nathan advise that they should. Pursuing something at a professional level demonstrates a meaningful commitment and a proven ability.


    Also in this episode:

    - A law school with an endless amount of fees

    - Whether you should attend an online law program

    - When conditional scholarships become predatory 


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    0:00 William & Mary’s Law School Fees

    13:38 Attending an Online Law School

    23:06 Predicting Role Questions

    33:23 Working as a Professional Gambler

    48:20 LSAC Guided Plus Program

    1:03:22 Accepting a Conditional Scholarship

    1:19:08 Ohio Northern’s Summer Program

    1:33:10 Word of the week — effusive

    1 hr 41 min
  • Your LSAT Is Your Application (Ep. 550)

    A listener asks whether they should quit their job to focus on LSAT study and law school applications. Ben and Nathan explain that there’s only so much productive studying you can do in a day and recommend keeping the job.


    Also in this episode:

    - Ben and Nathan poke fun at a New York Times article on homeownership with a clear flaw

    - How to break out of a stuck practice test range

    - Whether it makes sense to enroll with plans to transfer after 1L


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    0:00 Randomly Doing Bad

    9:05 New York Times Newsletter Flaw

    12:20 Stuck in the Low 160s

    21:04 Asking for More Money

    37:43 Quitting Job to Study for the LSAT

    50:48 Misleading Rankings

    1:01:38 Transferring After 1L

    1:09:57 Personal Statement Gong Show

    1:33:13 Word of the week — ascetic

    1 hr 40 min
  • Should Law Schools Be Lenders? (Ep. 549)

    Nathan and Ben react to WashU offering a new institutional loan to help students cover tuition beyond federal loan limits. They argue that chasing a prestigious name isn't worth it if you have to borrow heavily to get there.


    Also in this episode:

    - Ben and Nathan roast a poorly written Wall Street Journal headline

    - Whether highlighting and note-taking actually helps on the LSAT

    - An engineering grad considers switching to law


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    0:00 Wall Street Journal Headline 

    3:29 Extremely Confused

    14:34 Loan from WashU

    25:27 Highlighting on the LSAT

    27:20 Test D Question — Nonprofit Leaders

    38:05 Career Change as an Engineer

    50:07 A Few More Points on Your GPA

    57:26 January Score Hold

    1:09:51 Word of the week — suzerain

    1 hr 15 min
  • WTF is “Layered Conditional Logic”? (Ep. 548)

    A listener asks about alleged changes to Logical Reasoning that an LSAT YouTuber has reported. Ben and Nathan push back, maintaining that the test hasn’t meaningfully changed and that the so-called “new” question types have been around for years.


    Also in this episode:

    - A listener successfully secures a GPA change on their transcript.

    - Whether to use a letter of recommendation from a university president

    - What’s going on at Vanderbilt Law


    Study with our Free Plan⁠

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    0:00 Conditional Scholarships 

    11:00 Getting GPA Changed

    16:35 Letter of Recommendation from the President

    22:22 New Demon Plans

    28:04 Tips from Departing Demons

    37:50 RC Speed

    47:15 Updated LR Questions?

    1:01:48 What’s the Deal with Vanderbilt

    1:25:34 Word of the Week — diminution

    1 hr 33 min
  • RIP Remote LSAT (Ep. 547)

    LSAC announces that upcoming LSAT administrations will return primarily to in-person testing. Ben and Nathan discuss the shift away from remote testing and what it means for test takers.

    Also in this episode:

    - How to approach a final LSAT attempt

    - Cooley Law offers a scholarship for attending a meet and greet with the dean

    - How much time to spend studying each day


    Study with our Free Plan⁠

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    1 hr 6 min
  • The Full Ride Formula (Ep. 546)

    Reagan writes in after following Ben and Nathan’s advice from a previous episode to retake the LSAT and reapply. She shares her success story, including multiple full-ride offers and additional stipends.


    Also in this episode:

    - How an older applicant can best prepare.

    - A student gets waitlisted…for the waitlist.

    - The guys react to Nathan’s nephew’s argumentative essay.


    Study with our Free Plan⁠

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    0:00 Older Applicant 

    8:43 Waitlist for a Waitlist

    18:19 Retake & Reapply Results

    31:42 Test D Question — Room for Dessert

    48:42 Tips from Departing Demons

    54:02 Accommodation Solicitation

    57:04 Reaching Out for a Grade Change

    1:07:35 Argumentative Essay on Meat Pizza

    1:18:53 Word of the Week — paucity

    1 hr 23 min
  • Harvard's "Fix" for Grade Inflation is... More A's? (Ep. 545)

    Ben and Nathan react to Harvard considering A+ grades in response to grade inflation. They discuss how grading practices have changed and what could meaningfully change the system. 

    Also in this episode

    - Demon students share their January LSAT results

    - How to choose between a regional school and a top-ranked school

    - A listener asks about attending a non-ABA accredited law school


    New York Times Articles by Mark Arsenault

    Study with our Free Plan⁠

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    0:00 Harvard Adding A+ Grading

    11:07 January Score Release

    21:35 Attending a Regional School

    27:38 Improving Accuracy

    42:44 Test D Question — Vor

    58:57 Pearls v. Turds

    1:05:35 140s Jail

    1:13:55 Non-ABA Law School

    1:23:20 Too Late to Apply?

    1:31:13 Thank You Email

    1:36:36 Word of the Week — chiaroscuro

    1 hr 44 min

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