This episode comes from an interview we did with Dr. Shawn Riley in preparation for a mountain lion hunt. Dr. Riley is a wildlife ecologist and management expert with over 45 years of boots-on-the-ground experience.

From his early days tracking coyote-deer dynamics in Montana’s Missouri River Breaks to leading the charge in the human dimensions of wildlife management, Dr. Riley brings a ton of knowledge and experience to the table. He breaks down the science and the human side of hunting one of North America’s most elusive predators: mountain lions.

We also cover:

- How human values and perceptions shape mountain lion management

- The practical role of houndsmen and hunters in understanding big cats

- What top predators like cougars mean for ecosystems—and why balance matters

- The myths and realities of lion behavior in the wild

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