Kyle and Trevor Ritland share how they turned their father’s bedtime stories into an extensive investigation into Costa Rica’s golden toad after it was presumed extinct. They dive into a deeper story about ecological grief, overlooked local wisdom, and the possibility that hope still lingers in the cloud forest. Then, renowned writer and journalist John Vailliant talks about his most recent book, "Fire Weather: A True Story from a Hotter World," in which he describes the science of fire and forest heath, the fascinating relationships between humans and fire, and the future of fire-related disasters.