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What happens when the conservative movement turns on one of its own? Governor Newsom is joined by Ben Shapiro to dissect a wide range of topics including Trump's economic failures, the importance of immigration, and how free elections are in fact in danger. Plus they debate Middle East politics, how to solve the housing crisis and whether it's possible to find common ground with those you disagree with. 

00:00 Intro

00:36 Ben Shapiro Is California Raised

5:25 Law vs. Politics

7:00 How Bullying Shaped Ben

11:26 Breitbart, Bannon & The Birth of A Right Wing Media Empire

19:02 Are Podcasts' Influence Overrated?

22:06 ICE in California, The Importance of Immigrants & The Benefits of Sanctuary Policies

30:01 Solving The Housing Crisis & Fighting Crony Capitalism

38:47 California vs. Red States

42:51 Did Ben Actually Support Prop 50

47:33 Is Donald Trump Trying To Kill Free Elections?

54:32 TPUSA's America Fest Speech, Candace Owens & The Right Wing Influencer Scene

1:00:50 Shapiro's Relationships With Charlie Kirk & Tucker Carlson

1:03:04 Grievance Based Politics & False Nostalgia

1:08:50 Trump's Economic Troubles, The Affordability Crisis and The Tariff Failure

1:17:06 Shapiro's Justification of Trump's Foreign Policy & The Greenland Question

1:19:49 Trump's Interference With The Fed

1:21:05 Israel, Hamas, The Devastation In Gaza, & Criticisms of Bibi Netanyahu

1:30:30 Gender Affirming Care Under Trump & The Right's Weaponization of LGBTQIA Rights

1:41:08 Is Trump The Scavenger in Ben's Book?

1:45:28 Rapid Fire: Midterm Predictions, Healthcare Subsidies, Vance vs, Rubio, Bondi's Exit 

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Alex Wagner (Crooked Media) joins the show to talk about why legacy media is struggling, what stories will matter in 2026 and how Democrats can find their senses of humor. Plus, Alex shares why she'd love to get rid of the internet and why she refuses to become too negative.   


00:00 Celebrating New Years With A Cold Plunge

5:15 The Difference Between Crooked Media & Legacy Media

9:47 Can CBS News Win Over MAGA?

14:24 Is Profitability Killing Institutional Media?

 19:07 How The News Chooses What to Cover 

23:17 Do Podcasts Break Through The Noise?

31:30 Trump's Endurance

36:00 Why Are Democrats So Humorless?

 40:16 Is Media Consolidation And Democracy

 45:05 How You Become Alex Wagner

 55:23 The Stories We Should Be Focusing On In 2026

1:01:30 How Democrats Should Address Climate Issues?

1:09:16 Fighting Loneliness

1:17:13 What Makes Nihilism So Appealing For Young People?


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Brandon Ewing aka Atrioc joins the show to talk with Gavin about gaming culture and whether violent video games lead to violent acts. Then they decide what it will take for Gen-Z to reject this administration, if a college degree is worth it, and whether online culture is a cause or symptom of the nihilism young people are feeling.

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(00:00) Intro

(2:56) The Alleged Link Between Violent Video Games And Violent Actions

(9:32) Gaming Culture For People Who Aren't In It

(14:50) The Rise & Fall of E-Sports

(21:12) Meme Culture & The Economy After Covid

(28:02) What It Takes For Gen-Z To Turn On Trump

(36:00) The Burden We're Placing On Young People Is Unsustainable

(39:57) Are College Degrees Worthless?

(45:55) Social Media Incentivizes Feeding Into Anger

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As the year comes to a close, the show looks back at some of the conversations that sparked debate, challenged assumptions, and cut across the political divide.

In this special end of year rewind episode, Governor Gavin Newsom revisits significant moments from his discussions with Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, Scott Galloway, Atrioc, and Ben Meiselas providing new context and commentary.


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The Bulwark's Tim Miller joins the podcast to discuss being a leading figure in the Never Trump movement, the growth of The Bulwark and how Donald Trump is starting to make the mistake of a normal politician. Plus, Tim shares what it's like spending time with the Turning Point crowd and which Democrats could actually reach young men.


0:00 Intro
2:30 Miller's Media Diet
4:34 How Miller Came To Elevate The Bulwark
10:34 How To Understand The Trump Origin Story 
16:12 Who Really Benefits From Trump's Success
26:03 How Do Democrats Win Nationally
34:05 Did Covid Turn Democrats Into The Establishment?
40:59 Miller's Relationship With Charlie Kirk & Turning Point USA
46:17 The Left's Inability To Engage Young People
52:00 Is The Theo Von Voter Up For Grabs?

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Governor Newsom chats with Andrew Ross Sorkin in front of a live audience at the New York Times DealBook Summit in New York.  Listen in as they discuss the future of the country, the state of the Democratic party and how to fight the Trump administration.

0:00 - The Democratic Party Is A Big Tent Party
3:26 - The Importance of Democratizing Our Economy
9:27 Standing Up For Free Elections
15:55 Social Media Strategy & The Patriot Shop
20:35 Trump's Future  
23:47 Crony Capitalism
29:30 California As A Model Economy 
35:32 Environmental Issues & China
38:41 The 2028 Nominee Should Be...

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Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with Ian Bremmer, president of Eurasia Group, founder of  GZEROMedia, and one of the most influential geopolitical analysts in the world. Together they assess whether the United States is still seen as a reliable global partner.

Bremmer breaks down how President Trump is reshaping alliances, why U.S. foreign policy feels increasingly improvisational, and how adversaries like Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin exploit American dysfunction.

They also examine the administration’s Middle East strategy, whether the U.S. is quietly pursuing regime change in Venezuela and whether our fear of Artificial Intelligence can be solved by good political leadership.


00:00 — Is the U.S. Still a Reliable Ally?
06:31 — Does Trump Actually Have a Foreign Policy?
13:11 — MBS, Saudi Arabia, and That White House Meeting
19:22 — Should Trump Get More Credit in the Middle East?
25:38 — China’s Strategy: Xi Believes He Can Manage Trump
32:04 — Why This Administration Seems to Have It Out for Canada
38:48 — Are We Quietly Pushing Regime Change in Venezuela?
41:55 — The Trump – Putin Relationship Isn’t Working
48:53 — JD Vance & the NATO Breakdown
53:36 — How the World Actually Sees the U.S. Right Now
1:00:57 — American Corruption Is Now on Full Display
1:04:38 — Can Capitalism Save or Destroy AI?
1:08:50 — What The Epstein Files Really Tell Us


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Gavin Newsom sits down with Aaron Parnas for an Election Day conversation and why voting Yes on Prop 50 matters.

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Gavin sits down with Ben Meiselas, co-founder of MeidasTouch and one of the most influential progressive voices in digital media. Meiselas breaks down how independent creators are outpacing corporate media, why Democrats must “flood the zone with the truth,” and how the right exploits tragedy to manipulate public perception.

From Trump’s con on American farmers to the potential selling out of Taiwan to China to the future control of TikTok, this conversation dives deep into the moral vacuum of today’s GOP and what it really means to fight back. Plus how Trump’s DOJ is threatening future elections and how the government shutdown could spell the end of the filibuster.

00:00 - Intro

1:13 - More Downloads Than Rogan, More Views Than Fox 

5:28 - Flood The Zone With The Truth

8:10 - Borrowing From Mr. Beast

14:47 The Right’s Ability to Exploit Tragedy

18:45 Trump As A White House Wrecking Ball 

25:03 How Trump Conned Farmers & The American People

28:44 Would Trump Trade Taiwan For TikTok?

34:04 Why Fighting Back Helps Democrats Become More Popular

42:10 Are We Just Reacting To What Trump Wants? 

51:27 The American People Are Suffering Domestically Because Of Trump’s Policies

57:20 The Founding Fathers Never Considered A Low Moral Character President 

1:01:23 The Shutdown Is Going To Kill The Filibuster

1:05:37 The Department Of Justice, Election Observers and Voter Intimidation 

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Live from the Clinton Global Initiative, Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with President Bill Clinton to discuss leadership, climate change, innovation, and the future of public service in America. They also discuss California’s fight against wildfires and rising insurance costs, the global stakes of green energy, and the role of AI in shaping tomorrow’s economy.

 
00:00 Clinton's First Impression of Gavin Newsom

5:29 California Fires, Insurance Rates & Climate Change

11:49 The Damage Done By This Administration Already

15:18 California & Green Energy  & China 

18:13 Artificial Intelligence & Innovation In California 

21:07 Young Men & The Service Corps in California 

25:39 Divorce Is Not An Option 

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