This one has been a long time coming. Last spring, Greg called up another one of his idols, John Darnielle of the veteran indie folk rock act the Mountain Goats, to talk about Apartment 4, a song he grew to love when he became a dad. Due to technical difficulties the episode hit some snags, but now it's finally here, with a twist at the end. This is also a good primer for people unfamiliar with the Mountain Goats, the second greatest band of all time.