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How many times have we consoled ourselves with the truism "this too shall pass"? In the world of change which we all currently inhabit there's so much uncertainty and I was hugely reassured to read Julia Samuel's gorgeous book and realise that the experiences of my patients, my friends and I are not actually all that weird after all.

I absolutely loved talking to Kate Wharton about her take on Julia's wisdom as well as discussing the similarities between our jobs (she's a vicar, I'm a GP) and the importance of community, congregation and connection.

Follow Kate on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/KateWharton27