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THMG362 - FB post on Flammable Refrigerant


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We got a message on the Premium group FB board on a weird flammable reading at a freezer incident. It sounded eerily like an episode we did a few weeks ago (THMG352) Take a listen for a little more depth.


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In this engaging episode, hosts Bobby Salvesen and Michael Manco dive deep into the complexities of hazardous materials management with a focus on a case study involving a flammable refrigerant. The episode blends humor with technical expertise, providing insights into proper hazardous materials handling while debunking common myths.


  • 00:00:12 - Introduction by Bobby and Michael
  • 00:00:25 - Sponsor message and discussion on dry vs. wet decontamination
  • 00:02:04 - Casual catch-up and reflection on guest appearances on other podcasts
  • 00:03:27 - Discussion on membership benefits and the unrecorded Happy Hour for subscribers
  • 00:04:23 - Upcoming Hazmat instructor conference announcements
  • 00:05:23 - Chat about personal preferences in cigars and a new sponsorship
  • 00:06:12 - Critique of teaching methods in hazmat education
  • 00:07:37 - Introduction to the Facebook post puzzle about a flammable refrigerant incident
  • 00:11:25 - Discussion on initial emergency response strategies and the importance of proper ventilation
  • 00:14:07 - Analysis of flammable gas behavior in sealed environments
  • 00:17:36 - Theoretical exploration of gas leak dynamics in a freezer setup
  • 00:20:00 - Practical steps for diagnosing and responding to gas leaks in hazmat situations
  • 00:25:59 - Introduction of new technological tools for detecting gas leaks
  • 00:27:43 - Closing remarks and call to engage with the community


  • Technical Deep Dive: Detailed analysis on the properties and behaviors of R 4 0 4 A refrigerant in a leak scenario.
  • Humorous Anecdote: Bobby's story about pretending to drink a full bottle of scotch on air, which was actually tea.
  • Product Spotlight: Introduction of a new Fluke device for acoustically locating gas leaks, which could be a game-changer for hazmat responses.


  • FirstLine Technology: Dry Decon Resources
  • Gore-Tex Professional: Learn about Multi-Threat Suits


  • No special guests in this episode.


This episode provided valuable insights into the challenges and technical aspects of handling hazardous materials, particularly in dealing with misconceptions about flammable refrigerants. The hosts underscored the importance of continuous learning and proper response strategies in the field of hazardous materials management.


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