What if the key to better leadership—and a more fulfilling life—wasn't about doing more, but about embracing a different way of thinking? Elina Teboul, a conscious leadership expert and author of Feminine Intelligence, shares her mission to redefine the traditional notions of leadership and business, shifting the purpose from merely making profit to actually serving the greater good. This requires a radical self-awareness and understanding the ripple effects we make in all aspects of our lives.

Listen as Dr. Dasgupta shares the powerful metaphor of 'wallpaper' that underpins her work on using science to drive culture change and promote greater equality and justice in our communities. She takes us on a journey through the different types of 'wallpaper' - the physical, symbolic, representational, and social norms - that often go unnoticed but profoundly shape our experiences and opportunities.

Episode Reflection: Big goals often come with big expectations — from others, from culture, and from ourselves. In this conversation, Carol Adams Miller invites us to slow down and look beneath the surface of goal-setting to examine the intentions that drive our pursuits.

We explore how goals rooted in external validation or pressure can quietly drain energy, while goals aligned with values and meaning tend to endure. Carol shares insights on motivation, resilience, and why revisiting why we want something is just as important as deciding what we want.

What stayed with me is the reminder that goals are not just outcomes — they are relationships we maintain over time.

About the Guest

Carol Adams Miller is an author, speaker, and expert on goal achievement and positive psychology. Her work focuses on helping individuals and organizations pursue meaningful goals that align with values, purpose, and well-being.

Links & Resources

*Carol Adams Miller: https://www.carolinemiller.com/

*Big Goals: https://www.carolinemiller.com/author/

About Thought Echoes

Thought Echoes is a monthly podcast hosted by Beth Bonness, featuring conversations with authors, thinkers, and creatives exploring the nature of our thoughts — how they shape our lives, our work, and the meaning we make from experience.

These are not how-to conversations, but reflective ones — meant to linger, echo, and invite curiosity rather than certainty.

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Thank you for listening — and for staying with the echoes that shape your world.

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