Juliet and Amanda weigh in on the surprise Taylor Swift album ‘Folklore,’ released last weekend (00:43). They examine how her recent collaboration with Aaron Dessner of the National turned out, and how the composed-in-quarantine album could mark a new shift in tone.

They also touch on Gigi Hadid’s new home and the novel ‘Rodham’ by Curtis Sittenfeld.

Hosts: Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins

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