Follow Max on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maxformasc_/

Max's GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-a-trans-man-become-a-therapist?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer

Follow Ash on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/queerfuneralguide/

Ash's queer funeral guide (free resource): https://queerfuneralguide.co.uk/

Follow Etienne on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sequin_doves/

Follow Etienne on Twitter: https://twitter.com/e_sequin

Follow Etienne on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx2_NkhWnG1b-rqe_BKIU0w

Etienne's GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/az5zdx-top-surgery?utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet

Follow and support guest-host Gabriel Novo: https://beacons.page/bisexualnomad

We've often talked about the solidarity and understanding shared by the bi and trans communities, but there's also a lot of overlap -- many bisexual people are trans or non-binary, and vice-versa. Today, we're spotlighting three bi trans men living in the UK, interviewed by guest-host Gabriel Novo.

Gabriel spoke with Max, a psychotherapist in training; Ash, who's working to make the funeral industry more inclusive for queer and trans folks; and Etienne, an audio engineer who works in film and television. They discussed how and when these men realized they were trans and bisexual (sometimes not at the same time), the coming-out process for each, the value of supportive friends and family (and therapy!), how their bi and trans identities intersect and influence each other, what it's like to transition both emotionally and practically within the UK healthcare system, shifting perspectives and feelings on masculinity during transition, how various facets of identity can affect one's sense of self, TERFs (but only briefly, because they're scary and dumb), the effects of the pandemic on their identities and transitions, and much more!

Thank you to Max, Ash, and Etienne for sharing their stories so openly and authentically, and thank you to Gabriel for his thoughtful and caring interviews.

Two Bi Guys is produced and edited by Rob Cohen

Created by Rob Cohen and Alex Boyd

Logo art by Kaitlin Weinman

Music by Ross Mintzer

We are supported by The Gotham (formerly IFP)