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Welcome to PICU Doc On Call, A Podcast Dedicated to Current and Aspiring Intensivists.
I'm Pradip Kamat
and I'm Rahul Damania and we are coming to you from Children's Healthcare of Atlanta - Emory University School of Medicine.
Welcome to our PICU Mini-Series Episode a 10 month old who is intubated for acute respiratory failure secondary to RSV bronchiolitis.
Here's the case:
A 10-month-old full-term infant girl old is intubated for acute respiratory failure secondary to RSV bronchiolitis. Patient was brought to the ED by parents on day 3 of her illness with h/o cough, congestion and worsening respiratory distress. She has had increasing WOB and grunting. After assessment in the ED where the patient had a brief trial of HFNC, she was intubated with a 4.0 ETT due to persistent hypoxemia. Pertinently, her viral panel was positive for RSV, and the patient was transferred to the PICU. In the PICU, patient was ventilated using PRVC: Set TV of 90cc (patient is 11KG), PEEP 6, PS 10, and FIO2 40%. Throughout her course, she was mechanically ventilated and sedated for about a week. She required a continuous infusion of rocuronium due to decreased lung compliance and high peak pressures. Patient weaned on her ventilator settings by ICU day 7 and the decision to move towards extubation was made.
To summarize key elements from this case, this patient has:
Sure Pradip, so on day 6 of hospitalization our patient was weaned to low mechanical ventilator settings. The chest radiograph, which initially showed evidence of interstitial pneumonitis and atelectasis now improved and the patient had improved secretion burden. The patient was on ceftriaxone throughout the hospital course as her ETT cx with which grew Hemophilus Influenzae.
OK let's transition to our topic of discussion by a quick summary:
Pradip, What are the main barriers to extubation in pediatrics?
Thats an excellent question Rahul. One study published in Respiratory Care in` 2021 Vol 66 No 4) reported that in patients who had their passed the extubation readiness test, most common reason for holding off extubation was a planned procedure, neurologic diagnosis/status of the patient, and no leak around the ETT, other factors included high ventilator rates and over sedation, hemodynamic instability, fluid status etc.
I think it is important for us to truly consider procedures or imaging which are planned to play a factor in our timeline for extubation readiness - this mitigates the risk for re-intubation - which is especially important in children with difficult airways!
Rahul: how do majority of children's hospitals perform extubation readiness test prior to extubation?
In essence this may optimize their neuromuscular strength.
Thats correct — for more detail, The RSBI is a ratio of spontaneous TV to RR (adjusted for age). the CROP index is the compliance, respiratory rate, oxygenation and pressure index. The CROP index (ml/ kg/breaths/min) was calculated using the formula: Cdyn × NIF × (PaO2 /PAO2 )/RR.
Rahul what is the role of respiratory muscle weakness in extubation outcomes?
To summarize Neuromuscular status is essential to assess peri extubation - this is especially true in patients with myopathies either stress, paralytic or steroid related or primary muscular dystrophies.
Correct, also, More recently Glau et al (Pediatr Crit Care Med. 2020 Sep;21(9):e672-e678) reported Diaphragm atrophy is associated with prolonged post extubation noninvasive positive pressure ventilation in children with acute respiratory failure.Serial bedside diaphragm ultrasound may identify children at risk for prolonged noninvasive positive pressure ventilation use after extubation. However There was no difference in diaphragmatic parameters (atrophy rate, and peri-extubation diaphragmatic thickness in expiration and inspiration) in extubation success versus failure (Mistri S. et al. Pediatr Pulmonol. 2020 Dec;55(12):3457-3464).
So Rahul to look at our case again, what about her metabolic alkalosis prior to extubation ?
Great question: There is increased morbidity from prolonged mechanical ventilation: To name a few— VAP, pneumothorax, muscle weakness, atrophy of diaphragm, pressure sores, subglottic stenosis (can happen in less than a week of MV), unplanned extubation with cardiac arrest, and prolonged ICU length of stay. Additionally delirium and need for abstinence medications and rehabilitation.
The SCCM's ICU liberation ABCDEF bundle recommends use of spontaneous breathing trials and spontaneous awakening trials to improve patients outcomes. PCCM providers should strive for early mobility, minimal sedation, focus on analgesia as well as push to liberate patient from MV as soon as safely possible.
To highlight a key concept from today - extubation readiness is a coordinated effort in the PICU - it involves asessments from RTs nurses and as well as physicians and advanced care providers. Understand the primary etiology why the patient was intubated and whether or not that cause was reversed. Plan to complete imaging Or procedures within reason prior to activating the patient. Understand components such as sedation, neuromuscular weakness, and secretions to provide a holistic assessment on extubation readiness!
This concludes our episode on Extubation Readiness We hope you found value in our short, case-based podcast. We welcome you to share your feedback, subscribe & place a review on our podcast! Please visit our website picudoconcall.org which showcases our episodes as well as our Doc on Call management cards. PICU Doc on Call is co-hosted by myself Dr. Rahul Damania and my cohost Dr Pradip Kamat. Stay tuned for our next episode! Thank you!
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Welcome to PICU Doc On Call, A Podcast Dedicated to Current and Aspiring Intensivists.
I'm Pradip Kamat
and I'm Rahul Damania and we are coming to you from Children's Healthcare of Atlanta - Emory University School of Medicine.
Welcome to our PICU Mini-Series Episode a 10 month old who is intubated for acute respiratory failure secondary to RSV bronchiolitis.
Here's the case:
A 10-month-old full-term infant girl old is intubated for acute respiratory failure secondary to RSV bronchiolitis. Patient was brought to the ED by parents on day 3 of her illness with h/o cough, congestion and worsening respiratory distress. She has had increasing WOB and grunting. After assessment in the ED where the patient had a brief trial of HFNC, she was intubated with a 4.0 ETT due to persistent hypoxemia. Pertinently, her viral panel was positive for RSV, and the patient was transferred to the PICU. In the PICU, patient was ventilated using PRVC: Set TV of 90cc (patient is 11KG), PEEP 6, PS 10, and FIO2 40%. Throughout her course, she was mechanically ventilated and sedated for about a week. She required a continuous infusion of rocuronium due to decreased lung compliance and high peak pressures. Patient weaned on her ventilator settings by ICU day 7 and the decision to move towards extubation was made.
To summarize key elements from this case, this patient has:
Sure Pradip, so on day 6 of hospitalization our patient was weaned to low mechanical ventilator settings. The chest radiograph, which initially showed evidence of interstitial pneumonitis and atelectasis now improved and the patient had improved secretion burden. The patient was on ceftriaxone throughout the hospital course as her ETT cx with which grew Hemophilus Influenzae.
OK let's transition to our topic of discussion by a quick summary:
Pradip, What are the main barriers to extubation in pediatrics?
Thats an excellent question Rahul. One study published in Respiratory Care in` 2021 Vol 66 No 4) reported that in patients who had their passed the extubation readiness test, most common reason for holding off extubation was a planned procedure, neurologic diagnosis/status of the patient, and no leak around the ETT, other factors included high ventilator rates and over sedation, hemodynamic instability, fluid status etc.
I think it is important for us to truly consider procedures or imaging which are planned to play a factor in our timeline for extubation readiness - this mitigates the risk for re-intubation - which is especially important in children with difficult airways!
Rahul: how do majority of children's hospitals perform extubation readiness test prior to extubation?
In essence this may optimize their neuromuscular strength.
Thats correct — for more detail, The RSBI is a ratio of spontaneous TV to RR (adjusted for age). the CROP index is the compliance, respiratory rate, oxygenation and pressure index. The CROP index (ml/ kg/breaths/min) was calculated using the formula: Cdyn × NIF × (PaO2 /PAO2 )/RR.
Rahul what is the role of respiratory muscle weakness in extubation outcomes?
To summarize Neuromuscular status is essential to assess peri extubation - this is especially true in patients with myopathies either stress, paralytic or steroid related or primary muscular dystrophies.
Correct, also, More recently Glau et al (Pediatr Crit Care Med. 2020 Sep;21(9):e672-e678) reported Diaphragm atrophy is associated with prolonged post extubation noninvasive positive pressure ventilation in children with acute respiratory failure.Serial bedside diaphragm ultrasound may identify children at risk for prolonged noninvasive positive pressure ventilation use after extubation. However There was no difference in diaphragmatic parameters (atrophy rate, and peri-extubation diaphragmatic thickness in expiration and inspiration) in extubation success versus failure (Mistri S. et al. Pediatr Pulmonol. 2020 Dec;55(12):3457-3464).
So Rahul to look at our case again, what about her metabolic alkalosis prior to extubation ?
Great question: There is increased morbidity from prolonged mechanical ventilation: To name a few— VAP, pneumothorax, muscle weakness, atrophy of diaphragm, pressure sores, subglottic stenosis (can happen in less than a week of MV), unplanned extubation with cardiac arrest, and prolonged ICU length of stay. Additionally delirium and need for abstinence medications and rehabilitation.
The SCCM's ICU liberation ABCDEF bundle recommends use of spontaneous breathing trials and spontaneous awakening trials to improve patients outcomes. PCCM providers should strive for early mobility, minimal sedation, focus on analgesia as well as push to liberate patient from MV as soon as safely possible.
To highlight a key concept from today - extubation readiness is a coordinated effort in the PICU - it involves asessments from RTs nurses and as well as physicians and advanced care providers. Understand the primary etiology why the patient was intubated and whether or not that cause was reversed. Plan to complete imaging Or procedures within reason prior to activating the patient. Understand components such as sedation, neuromuscular weakness, and secretions to provide a holistic assessment on extubation readiness!
This concludes our episode on Extubation Readiness We hope you found value in our short, case-based podcast. We welcome you to share your feedback, subscribe & place a review on our podcast! Please visit our website picudoconcall.org which showcases our episodes as well as our Doc on Call management cards. PICU Doc on Call is co-hosted by myself Dr. Rahul Damania and my cohost Dr Pradip Kamat. Stay tuned for our next episode! Thank you!
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