Welcome to The Elliott Exchange! A weekly conversation in which Tom and Elise exchange ideas on news, media, parenting, marriage and everything in between.

In Episode 8:

01:34 – Elise reveals Tom was guilty of helicopter parenting at their daughter's under-13s footy grand final.

05:06 – Elise admits she doesn't pay enough attention and missed a big moment in the their daughter's grand final.

07:06 – Middle-aged activities: Taking up surfing led Elise to her first date with Tom.

12:16 – Tom agrees to meet Elise halfway for an activity they could do together.

13:07 – Relationship Rules: Elise outs Tom's special group "The Chisel Zone".

17:50 – Media Mishap: Don't drink and get behind the mic.

18:40 – Tom reveals what it was like behind the scenes in his early days in radio.

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