Bill and Edmund Fitton-Brown recorded this conversation before the U.S. and Israel conducted the military strikes inside the Islamic Republic that killed Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei.

In it, they pondered the question that Washington was wrestling with at the time: should the U.S. strike Iran, and what would happen if it did? From whether airpower alone can truly cripple Iran’s nuclear and missile programs to why regime change may be impossible without an actual armed resistance.

They also pivoted to Gaza and the new “Board of Peace” plan — billions of dollars, a multinational force, and the question looming over it all: can it stabilize Gaza, or will Hamas sabotage it from the start?