Touchdowns and Tangents

Kenny and Pete open this week's show by discussing the latest NFL coaches fired and all the rumors to fill those vacancies. They talk about David Stern's legacy and Kenny takes over for Senior Bowl GFes and the best CFB segment all bowl season. Then they get into take or tangent on the rushing leader, sack leader and way more. Things start wrapping up with a special Wild Card version of Touchdown or Turnover. The show concludes with an epic argument about LAMAR JACKSON and the upcoming NFL Draft.

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#Letstalkaboutit (20-30 minutes)
How was your Christmas?
Marshawn Lynch is back
Ben Roethlisberger blocked everybody on Twitter. Announces he's coming back next season.
AFC/NFC Playoff picture
Top 100 NFL List snubs & controversies
Bengals have 1st overall pick.

#CollegeFootball (10 minutes)
Bowl game updates
Players skipping bowls
The legend of Joe Burrow continues: https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/lsu-football/joe-burrow-leads-lsu-to-shooting-challenge-win-over-oklahoma/
RIP Edward Aschoff
Liberty Head Coach Hugh Freeze leads them to first bowl victory after spending most of season in a hospital bed
Lincoln Riley to Cowboys?

#TakeOrTangent (15 minutes)
Players like Terrell Owen's snubbed off NFL Top 100 players list for players from the 30s & 40s.
RG3 starting week 17 v.s. Steelers as Lamar Jackson, Mark Ingram Mark Andrews.
Mathew Stafford & his wife Kelly visits kids on Christmas to play Madden after they lost their father. Kelly had a non-cancerous brain tumor removed earlier this year. Matt had broken bones in his back & is on IR
Cowboys tackle La'el Collins bought his mom a house
J.J. Watt is back from I.R.
Jarvis played with https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2868589-browns-jarvis-landry-reveals-he-played-2019-season-with-fractured-vertebrae

#TouchdownorTurnover (15 minutes)
Ravens sitting key starters against the Steelers, who are fighting for a playoff spot.
Terrell Suggs picked up by the Kansas City Chiefs on waivers
DeMarcus Lawrence on describing the Cowboys season, "Talent without direction is nothing."
Leighton Vander Esch done for season as he is trying to play with spinal stenosis. He's getting "minimally evasive nerve surgery to be able to play
AB is in therapy
Saints OL dresses as santa

Unnecessary Toughness Rants: (10 minutes)

Corey Lestochi host of Hard Core CFB on Patreon and Admin for For the Glory of Old State (Penn State Football Site) (20 minutes)

What is the Hardcore CFB Podcast?
Why college football?
How did it get started, why Patreon?
What’s a low key Bowl Game you’re looking forward to?
Who is a player that can help themselves in the Draft during this Bowl Game?
Sell us on why the Big10 is Better than the Pac-12?
Do you root for Ohio State in the playoff?
Do you hope Wisconsin wins the Rose Bowl?
Cotton Bowl Keys to Beating Memphis and why the Rest of us should watch…

More CFB News (20 minutes) BONUS:
Any issues with All-Americans?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2867265-heisman-winner-joe-burrow-chase-young-headline-2019-ap-all-america-1st-team

SIGNING DAY
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2866786-cfb-early-signing-period-grading-every-top-25-teams-recruiting-class-on-day-1#slide0

Clemson has signed four top-50 DL recruits today. That's the most by a single class in the ESPN 300 era.
Why does this matter?@ClemsonFB
won its 2018 national title with three 1st-round 2019 NFL Draft picks on its defensive line.
Emmitt Smith son goes Stanford over Pops Florida

BOWL GAMES
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28226028/picks-predictions-every-college-football-bowl-game-including-national-championship

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28269519/college-football-bowls-10-individual-matchups-wait-see
9:58 AM
K.D. returns for his senior season.
"I have decided to continue my college football career at Colorado, earn my degree and declare for the NFL Draft in 2021." K.D. Nixon
More KB HITS

#LETSTALKABOUTIT (20 minutes)

Herman Boone, Remember the Titans dies
https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/28329540/herman-boone-high-school-coach-inspired-remember-titans-dies-84

Pro Bowl
https://slack-redir.net/link?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Farticles%2F2867464-nfl-pro-bowl-selections-2020-voting-results-and-full-list-of-players-announced
Michael Middlehurst-Schwartz of USA Today noted the AFC North champions tied the record with 12 players named to the initial roster. New Orleans Saints (seven) and Kansas City Chiefs (six) rounded out
ESPN pointed out the Miami Dolphins and New York Giants were the only teams without a player selected, but the absence of New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady
Snubs: Cousins, Jacobs, Waller, Z’Darius Smith, Preston Smith, Sutton, Justin Simmons, Tom Brady, Golloday, Josh Allen, Honey Badger, Cory Littlton, Chris Carson, Kendricks, Dak, Edelmen, Marcus Williams, ?
Surprises: Cowboys Center, Kahlil Mack, Landry, Frank Clark, Geno Atkins, Darius Slay and Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers

Poll Update (3 minutes)

66 percent of people think AB will play before Gordon
Gordon suspended indefinitely for Substance Abuse
AB rumored six game suspension, cancelling white women
Nobody cares about Vick being an honorary captain at the Pro Bowl

Take or Tangent (10 minutes)

Brees the Goat?
https://twitter.com/Saints/status/1206793673255641092?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1206793673255641092&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnfl
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1206891477273579520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1206891477273579520&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnfl
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1206950759385980932?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1206950759385980932&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnfl


Sherman still the Best

Said QBS underestimating him is paying his bills

Pete Carroll andSeahawks Pats west?
Playoff berth and top of NFC
Wilson wants to be the Greatest Winner ever

#THATSGOODNEWS (3 minutes)

https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1206967085282275330?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1206967085282275330&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnfl

CAM:
https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1207480145633673216?s=20

Bridgewater at HS championship


Edmunds on the field together
https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1206937088228245504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1206937088228245504&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnfl

Touchdown or Turnover (10 minutes)

OBJ Staying in Cleveland
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2867575-odell-beckham-jr-says-im-not-going-anywhere-amid-rumors-of-browns-unrest

Coughlin gone
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2867633-tom-coughlin-fired-as-jaguars-executive-vice-president-after-nflpa-drama
Stats & INFO ESPN:

The Jaguars have fired executive VP of football operations Tom Coughlin.
In his first season, Jacksonville reached the AFC Championship Game and were +149 in point differential during the 2017 season.
Since then, the Jaguars are 10-20 and have been outscored by 174 points

Cowboys and Malcom Smith?
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/12/cowboys-interested-in-malcolm-smith

Unnecessary Toughness (4 minutes)

#LETSTALKABOUTIT

Raiders done done in Oakland

Patriots Cheating Scandal
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patriots-bengals-video-drama-everything-you-need-to-know-about-spygate-2-0/

Clinton Portis and others fraud scandal
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/us/nfl-health-care-fraud/index.html

CFB Playoff and bowls

Heisman final 4: Justin Fields & Chase Young from Ohio State, Joe Burrow & Jalen Hurts
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28226028/picks-predictions-every-college-football-bowl-game-including-national-championship

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28269519/college-football-bowls-10-individual-matchups-wait-see
Mike Norvell hired as new Florida State head coach
Elijah Drinkwitz hired as new Missouri head coach after 12-1 record & Sun Belt championship at Appalachian State. It was his only season at App State.
Steve Addazio hired at Colorado State. Former players applauded him being fired at Boston College
Lane Kiffin hired at Ole Miss
Willie Taggert hired at FAU
Arkansas hires former assistant Sam Pittman. Elite offensive line coach and recruiter. Former players & assistants sent letters & recommendations.
Clemson loses longtime assistant Jeff Scott to South Florida head coach position. First Clemson assistant to leave since 2015.
Marcus Arroyo, Oregon offensive coordinator hired at UNLV
South Carolina QB Jake Bentley transfers to Utah
Utah State QB Jordan Love declares for NFL draft. Considered No. 4 QB
Boston College running back A.J. Dillon declares for draft. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-draft-declaration-tracker-potential-first-round-picks-shenault-gross-matos-make-decisions/
https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/1205195741091647489?s=19

Take or Tangent

Mike Vick petition
500k people sign for him to be honorary captain

Lamar Jackson a symbol
https://theundefeated.com/features/for-black-fans-in-baltimore-lamar-jacksons-success-resonates-way-beyond-football/

Per The MMQB's Albert Breer, Goodell called the workout a "unique" and "credible opportunity" that Kaepernick "chose not to take, and I understand that.”

#GoodNews

Khalil Mack
Aquib Talib


Touchdown or Turnover
Updated SB odds Ravens favored
https://twitter.com/br_betting/status/1205206530028519424?s=20

BUrrow AP Player of the year, 1st overall pick?
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1205177246291550209

The NFL salary cap will rise again in 2020, reportedly settling in a range between $196.8 million and 201.2 million, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network:


BONUS

Free Agency

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/12/11/21010512/nfl-free-agency-2020-contract-year-winners-losers

¾ awards

#Letstalkaboutit
LAMAR JACKSON….that's the tweet
Russell Wilson dominates again
Ron Rivera gets fired/Cam has foot surgery
RIP George Atkinson III. RIP to the son of Terry Glenn Jr
AFL shut down last week
Kaepernick workout backlash: Good & bad. (Keep it to 10 minutes max) Jordan Veasy signed
AFC/NFC playoff picture
Broadcaster Tim Ryan suspended only one game for racist comments on Lamar Jackson: https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/49ers-Suspend-Broadcaster-After-Lamar-Jackson-Comments-565810071.html
Antonio Brown losing his gotdamn mind.

College football news
Championship weekend
Auburn possibly ends the Nick Saban dynasty with 48-45 Iron Bowl win
Chris Peterson steps down as Washington head coach. Defensive coordinator Jimmy Lake promoted to Head Coach
Fired coaches: Ole Miss Matt Luke, Colorado State Mike Bobo fired, Boston College Steve Addazio, Chris Ash Rutgers & Mizz head coach Barry Odom.
Clay Helton retained. Greg Schiano back at Rutgers on 8-year deal. https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019/12/here-are-the-details-of-greg-schianos-historic-contract-to-return-to-rutgers.html

Take or tangent is optional
Guice & Petersen go over 200 yards together.
Cam Newton has foot surgery
Derek Carr winless in Kansas City
Pete Carroll a C.O.T.Y candidate

Rants: overtime

questions

What football team runs L.A?
What L.A. team has the best tailgate?
Your tailgate isn't a tailgate without what?


#Letstalkaboutit
Tua has no injury insurance protecting against his possible falling in the draft. Parents have full faith in Alabama. https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2019/11/explaining-tua-tagovailoas-nfl-draft-insurance-situation-after-hip-injury.html
Chase Young is back as Ohio State plays Penn State.
Georgia could shut out the Pac-12 champ as SEC East Champ.
Pac-12 South implications surrounding USC v.s. UCLA & #7 Utah v.s. Arizona.
How did Pete & Kenny become UCLA & USC fans?
NFL Rams stadium news.https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28117460/inside-rams-chargers-marriage-nfl-fights-los-angeles
Chocolate football giveaway.
Whose 5th all time on the Trojans rushing yards list?
Whose the last USC running back to rush for 1,000 yards in the NFL?
8. High school highlights

#Letstalkaboutit
RIP Charles Roger's. God bless the dead
Colin Kaepernick will get a PRIVATE tryout in Atlanta on Saturday, November 16th for all 32 teams. It's set up as a miniature combine that starts at 3 p.m. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28067012/nfl-invites-teams-colin-kaepernick-workout-saturday
Eric Reid gives his opinion. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2862608-panthers-eric-reid-says-nfls-colin-kaepernick-workout-feels-like-a-pr-stunt
Lamar Jackson vs Deshaun Watson & Steve Young's comments
Seahawks v.s. 49ers. Geno Smith calls "Hails."
Taylor Lewan tells media not to talk about his penalties cuz he knows.

College football
LSU beat Bama. The aftermath…
Chase Young suspension for alleged NCAA infraction where he paid back a loan from a family friend so he could get his girlfriend to the Rose bowl game. Ohio State reduced suspension to two games. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2861918-ohio-states-chase-young-to-return-from-suspension-vs-penn-state-on-nov-23
Arkansas Coach Chad Morris finally fired
#17 Minnesota beats #4 Penn State. Minnesota moved up to #7
Baylor vs Oklahoma for Big 12 title.

J.D. might pull up.

Take or Tangent
Pete's Raider tailgate experience
Saquon laments he won't sit games out
Dak Prescott pocket workout makes it to meme status.
Ezekiel Elliott, Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley & Alvin Kamara. Whose the best?
Pro bowl Saints guard Andrus Peat out 6 weeks with broken arm
Dion Jordan & D.J. Swearinger sign with Raiders
Preston Brown cut by Bengals


Unnecessary Toughness Rants

#Letstalkaboutit
Josh Gordon picked up on waivers by the Seattle Seahawks.
Cam Newton officially placed on injured reserve. He may be done in Carolina.
DeSean Jackson put on IR due to abdominal tear. Jordan Mathews signed for third stint.
A.J. Green might play for the first time this season.
Dez Bryant said he'll be ready to contribute in two weeks. He tore his Achilles tendon last year with the Saints.
Kahzin Daniels will start for Buccaneers on Sunday. Outside linebacker is completely blind in one eye. He's an undrafted rookie. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/buccaneers-rookie-who-is-completely-blind-in-one-eye-set-to-make-his-nfl-debut/
Colorado becomes the 19th state to legalize sports gambling of some sort.

College football:
Florida State fired Willie Taggert. Booster club raised $20 million buyout. https://www-tampabay-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.tampabay.com/sports/seminoles/2019/11/06/did-willie-taggart-leave-fsu-better-than-he-found-it/?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15730989249388&_ct=1573098937319&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tampabay.com%2Fsports%2Fseminoles%2F2019%2F11%2F06%2Fdid-willie-taggart-leave-fsu-better-than-he-found-it%2F
Clemson left out of the first college football playoff poll.
RIP Nahje Flowers https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2861373-new-mexico-de-nahje-flowers-dies-at-age-21
No. 2 LSU v.s. No. 3 Bama. Trump wi show up. Students warned not to protest https://www.al.com/news/2019/11/alabama-sga-warns-groups-protest-trump-during-lsu-game-risk-losing-reserved-seating.html
Heisman race
Minnesota head coach P.J. Fleck gets a 7-year contract extension after 8-0 head start. The 17th ranked Gophers host 4th ranked Penn State. He's only 38.


Take or Tangent
Patriots rookie cornerback Joejuan Williams told Boston Globe he saved 90 percent of his game checks.
Lamar Jackson & the Ravens beat the Patriots 37-20. Bill Polian admits he was wrong.
Mitch Trubisky wants TV's turned off at Halas Hall. Tired of criticism.
Freddie Kitchens doesn't look at stats.
Baker Mayfield shaved his handlebar mustache because he felt he wasn't worthy of it.


Unnecessary Toughness Rants

#Letstalkaboutit
NCAA board approves athlete compensation for images, likeness. Goal is to be implemented by 2021.
Trade deadline passed. Trent Williams failed his physical due to his helmet hurting him.
Jamal Adams calls out Jets management for fielding trade offers for him after telling him he was the cornerstone of the franchise
Aqib Talib traded to the Dolphins for draft picks
Genard Avery traded to Eagles
Kenyon Drake traded to Arizona Cardinals
Coaches on the hot seat

College Football news
LSU ranked #1 now
Heisman candidates
So many upsets
Dabo Swinney saying he'd quit coaching if players could get paid.
Mitt Romney on players getting paid. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2860550-mitt-romney-on-paying-ncaa-players-cant-have-some-athletes-driving-ferraris.amp.html


Take or Tangent
Bengals bench Andy Dalton on his birthday
A.J. Green: "Either sign me to a long term deal or let me go."
Baker Mayfield goes off on reporter after dumb question
Patriots have arguably the easiest schedule in football. This team stacks up the the 16-0 team
Bengals v.s. Dolphins game will decide the first pick in the draft.
Earl Campbell says Texas needs a black quarterback to win. https://www.hookem.com/2019/10/30/bohls-earl-campbell-black-quarterback/
Antonio Cromartie says the Colts cut him because he took a knee. https://yhoo.it/31Y2X8c

Unnecessary Toughness Rants

#Letstalkaboutit

XFL partnership deals announced. Inaugural championship game will be April 26th.https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/26683501/xfl-games-air-espn-abc-fox-properties
Rest in Power Willie Brown
Trades, rumors & such: Conley, Sanders, Sanu, Bennett and more
Impact of Mahomes injury
Bridgewater versus Brees, Tannehill Resurgence, Rosen versus Fitz, Kyle Allen? And more QB issues

Take or Tangent
Reuben Randle blackballed article: https://www.sbnation.com/2019/10/10/20905265/dorktown-rueben-randle-new-york-giants-odell-beckham-wide-receivers-nfl-eli-manning
Christine Brennan hit piece on Jim Brown or not? You be the judge. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/brennan/2019/10/23/why-jim-brown-not-among-greatest-nfl-players/2452787001/
Bill Belichick takes advantage of the rules again. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bill-belichick-admits-he-exploited-a-loophole-in-the-nfl-rulebook-that-should-probably-be-closed/

College football news

Tua injured again with an ankle injury.
Clemson ranked 4th in AP poll. Strength of schedule being held against them.
Pac 12 wars
Dabo Swinney highest paid coach in college football at $9.3 million.
Georgia Southern freshman offensive lineman found dead at 18 of suicide by overdose. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2859343-georgia-southern-freshman-ol-jordan-wiggins-dies-at-18.amp.html
Mark Richt has a heart attack

Touchdown or Turnover
Kelechi Osemele injury issue with the Jets
Josh Gordon to be put on IR & waived once cleared
Jets pissed at ESPN & NFL for airing Sam Darnold's "Seeing ghosts" comment on Monday Night Football.

BONUS
Midseason Awards
Fancourt: NBA is back and Lakers fans
LA SPorts: Traffico, NBA, NFL What’s the Impact?

Unnecessary Toughness Rants