Touchdowns and Tangents

#LETSTALKABOUTIT
Rams trade Marcus Peter's to the Ravens for Kenny Young & a draft pick
Rams then trade for Jalen Ramsey by giving up two firsts & a fourth round pick. (KENNY CALLED IT WEEKS AGO)
Mahomes injured knee against the Broncos.
Raiders right tackle Trent Brown states his innocence against domestic violence suit by his ex girlfriend

NEW SEGMENT: #WHATSTHEIMPACT
Ravens lose Tony Jefferson but get Marcus Peters & Earl Thomas in the same secondary.
Jalen Ramsey saves the Rams season?
Mahomes ankle injury history
Terrible officiating rears its head again in Packers/Lions game

College Football News
Penn State alum sends racist letter to black player about his hair & tattoos & then doubles down on it when called out. Players respond with shirts that school officials make take off during warm ups.
Mike Leach bans his players from using social media the entire season. (That's a first amendment violation btw)
LSU blew out Florida & everyone should be afraid.
12 undefeated teams left.
- Alabama (vs. Tennessee)
- Appalachian State (vs. LA Monroe)
- Baylor (at OK State)
- Boise State (at BYU)
- Clemson (at Louisville)
- LSU (at Miss. State)
- Minnesota (at Rutgers)
- Ohio State (at Northwestern)
- Oklahoma (vs. WVU)
- Penn State (vs. Michigan)
- SMU (vs. Temple)
- Wisconsin (at Illinois)

Take or Tangent
Random dumbass person takes a picture with Myles Garrett & then punches him in the face.
Demaryius Thomas calls Patriots trading him to Jets after resigning him disrespectful
Zach Brown trash talks Kurt Cousins before Eagles/Vikings game & then gets washed. Eagles cut him.

Unnecessary Toughness rants

#LetsTalkaboutit

Touchdowns and Theater: Joker edition

Baker versus Bosa and more reluctant 49er content
Bosa said he ain’t made Goff YetB
Sherman versus Baker
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2857553-browns-baker-mayfield-odell-beckham-talk-frustrations-with-recent-struggles

Rihanna, Kap and SB

Rih rejects SB
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2857371-rihanna-rejected-super-bowl-53-halftime-show-in-solidarity-with-colin-kaepernick
Kap’s team’s fact sheets
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1182395272141430784?s=20

XFL https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/10/07/xfl-draft-player-list-connor-cook-jonas-gray-names/3901784002/

QB Connor Cook, Trent Richardson, and K Roberto Aguayo, Kaelin Burnett , Carl Bradford, Arthur Brown, Jacoby Ford, Damien Mama, Zach Mettenberger, Will Sutton, Tre jackson, Matt Elam, Rahim Moore, Sammie Coates, Max mccafrey, Fred Taylor and Vinnie t’s son, Chris Mccaffrey’s brother,

Take or Tangents

Tez Suspension upheld
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27808459/raiders-vontaze-burfict-season-long-suspension-upheld
Ed Reed’s take on fines https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1182398523318263809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1182398523318263809&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnfl
Rams D doing too much?
https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/09/nfl-rams-eric-weddle-defense-too-much-big-plays/
Gronk hasn’t officially retired
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001064238/article/robert-kraft-hopeful-gronkowski-will-return-to-patriots
Mishnew has Kyler in Fantasy

Touchdown or Turnover

Jay Gruden fired

Urban Meyer Washington rumors

Chris Harris to eagles
https://www.nj.com/eagles/2019/10/nfl-trade-rumors-broncos-chris-harris-is-perfect-fit-for-eagles.html

Zay Jones trade to Raiders

AJ Green not getting traded

Bonus: Disappointing rookies
https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/10/kliff-kingsbury-insists-team-is-not-disappointed-in-rookie-wr-andy-isabella/
https://arizonasports.com/story/2114485/pff-gives-cardinals-kyler-murray-6th-best-grade-among-1st-rounders-so-far/
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2857158-nfl-rookies-struggling-to-meet-high-expectations#slide3
https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/09/raiders-rb-josh-jacobs-remains-pffs-top-rookie-from-2019-class/

Kenny and Pete are back with reaction from consecutive Rams losses, Burfict's latest suspension and drama in Minnesota. This show also features tangents on Shakira versus J-lo again. Lastly, Leuzinger High School Football head coach Thomas Barnes stops by for Kenny's latest Community conversation. He talks about building a program without many transfers or resources as well as his story in coaching. Find more content on TouchdownsandTangents.com

Melvin Gordon returns
Saquon injured
NFL owners propose 17th game
JLo Shakira halftime Super Bowl Performers

Mahomes fastest player to hit 99 overall in madden
Jalen Ramsey leaves team for birth of his 3nd child
Bill's & 49ers undefeated at the bye week
Lamar Jackson hates running

College football
USC & UCLA answer the Call of Duty against
Transfers balling at their new schools
D'Eric King redshirts rest of his senior year and will stay at Houston.
Cal is ranked 15th
Mancini pull up?

Touchdown or Turnover
Cam/Kyle Allen will doom the Panthers season
Daniel Jones will thrive without Saquon?
Mitch Trubisky is better than Kirk Cousins
LSU is better than Clemson

Unnecessary Toughness

#Letstalkaboutit
Eli era over in New York. Daniel Jones is Eli 2.0?
Will Saquon be wasted?
The MisExpectations of Jalen Ramsey & Jaguars ownership
What is Tom Coughlin doing?
Is Dalvin Cook's rise Kirk Cousin's undoing?
Steelers get Minkah Fitzpatrick. Their entire defense consists of first rounders
Antonio Brown saga continued

College Football news
Jalen Hurts
UCLA & USC
LSU

Take or Tangent
Dolphins tanking
Chargers lose another safety to IR
Drew Brees out with thumb injury
Big Ben out for the year


Rants

Special Guests Bruce Wright and Mykell the Point Guard of Courtside radio stick around to talk some Raiders v.s. Chiefs matchups, fantasy football leagues, the decline of Cam Newton, California athletes being allowed to make money off their names, image & likeness and Marshawn Lynch bringing Arena Football to the city back to home in the form of the Oakland Panthers. Pete was in New Orleans for the ONA Conference.

Clowney, Tunsil & Stills trades
Zeke Deal

Mykell and Gunnells 8:00 PM-830 PM with Pete and Kenny crosstalk on Raiders and Chiefs


Raiders HardKnocks finale
MORE AB DRAMA, can the raiders win without him.
Jacobs
The defense
Oakland’s final season

McCoy to Chiefs, touchdown or turnover? What does he bring to the table
Is it Super Bowl or Bust for Andy reid?
What’s the backup plan if Mahomes ain’t Mahomes again?
Who scares the Chiefs most in the AFC and AFC West?


Broncos Interview 825

Jamie Hoyle The Lightning round Podcast, Bolts from the Blue network at 845

Melvin Gordon doesn’t play a down for Chargers this year, touchdown or turnover?

Melvin Gordon gets paid more than zeke touchdown or turnover?

Philip Rivers retires touchdowns or turnovers?

Roster often talked about as deepest what are some holes?

Who is the Chargers x-factor this year?

What are the expectations for that defense this year?

Will SD Ever love the Chargers again?

Brad Mader, Locked on Rams and Rams podcast 905 PM

How did you become a Rams fan?

Tyler Higbee 4-years, $31 million is that a touchdown or turnover?

Jared Goff, four-year, $110 million is that a TD or TO?

What do you make of Rams culture to extend players before free agency and delivering on deals?

Who is Rams biggest adversary in NFC?

How do the Rams not win this division?

Seahawks 9:20 PM

What is the worse case scenario for the Hawks? Are they really contenders with Rams?

There are still a lot of questions about WR and DB which is somewhere the NFC West Champion Rams are deep, how do the Hawks matchup?

With Clowney there and LBs healthy what is expectations from Front Seven?

Is this the year the O-line finally puts it all together?

Who is a player no one outside of the 12 is talking about that you’re excited for?

Kevin Molina 49ers Hub writer, Hubcast cohost and CSUN Alum

Is this the year the Niners turn it around? Make your case for how can they win the NFC West.

With the Raiders leaving the Bay, the Warriors moving closer to SF, what would a big year for the 9ers mean to growing the fanbase?

Dante Pettis, Soloman Thomas been storylines of this offseason, how do you grade Shanahan and Lynch’s progress in both drafting and developing players?

Who will have the bigger year, Tevin Coleman or Jimmy G?

Ryan FPC Cardinals, recurring guest

Will the line ever improve?

Headlines this week say Kyler hard to read, What are realistic expectations for Kyler and Kliff?

How does Kyler win ROTY?

What are some teams the Cardinals can surprise?

Who is nobody talking about from the Cardinals that they should be?

Is there anyway the Cardinals can win this division?

#Letstalkaboutit
Andrew Luck retires. His news got leaked. Fans booed. Osweiler worked out
Clowney fires agent. Still holding out, Dolphin rumors
Marshall Faulk comments on Zeke not getting paid.
Ryan Russell comes out as BI https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/ej-montini/2019/08/29/openly-bisexual-nfl-player-ryan-russell-kaepenicked/2155215001/
Rams no progress on Peters or Goff
Pugh wants to talk about mental health https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/27/justin-pugh-time-to-talk-about-nfl-players-mental-health/
The Arizona Cardinals have suspended executive vice president and chief operating officer Ron Minegar, according to Katherine Fitzgerald of the Arizona Republic The suspension—a minimum of six weeks without pay—comes after Minegar was arrested earlier this month on suspicion of driving under the
influence. The Cardinals also fined him $200,000, and the money will go to a chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) in Arizona.
Allen won’t trade Trent Williams https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2851487-redskins-bruce-allen-trent-williams-will-end-holdout-play-with-us
Tunsil on the block, Phins will revolt, trend of players traded after camp https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2851587-nfl-rumors-dolphins-players-would-revolt-if-team-trades-laremy-tunsil

Connor Morissette interview in no order (About 51 minutes)
What is Score Box Live
Connor's journalistic upbringing
Transfer culture
Private v.s. Public school resources
The problems with LAUSD
Too many schools creates competition desserts.
Game coverage an CIF moving away from Max Preps

Rants & Cerv shoutout

#letstalkaboutit
XFL logos and cities revealed
More AB and helmet Gate
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/8/22/20827963/antonio-brown-helmet-grievance-faq
Was it BS?
Will it cost Hall of Fame?
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/leveon-bell-weighs-in-on-antonio-browns-helmet-drama-takes-a-surprising-stance-about-his-former-teammate/
More Jay-z and Kap
Rookies Disappointing, thriving
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2850350-what-to-make-of-disappointing-nfl-rookie-preseasons#slide8
Patrick Chung busted for Coke Possession

Touchdowns or Turnover
Crab in, white out https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2848708-michael-crabtree-cardinals-agree-to-1-year-contract-after-kevin-white-release
Dontrelle Inman Signs Contract with Chargers Despite Offer from Jets
Zeke gets offer https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowboys-reportedly-offer-to-make-ezekiel-elliott-second-highest-paid-running-back-in-nfl/
Holdouts like Gordon continue,
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/melvin-gordons-holdout-apparently-getting-ugly-chargers-star-reportedly-expected-to-miss-regular-season-games/
5. The Baker Mayfield conundrum

Take or Tangent
Lamar Jackson fixing fumbling issues
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/21/lamar-jackson-fixed-ball-security-issues
Coach McVay breaks down game live
Meritocracy
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2850011-mike-freemans-10-point-stance-antonio-brown-hall-of-fame-future-in-jeopardy?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-league
If you want to understand why it is difficult for coaches of color to rise in the ranks of professional football, look no further than the Vikings-Seahawks game last Sunday.
The site HeadCoachRanking.com looked at the coaching roster from both teams, and it was a nepotism-palooza. The Vikings had head coach Mike Zimmer, linebackers coach Adam Zimmer, assistant head coach Gary Kubiak, quarterback coach Klint Kubiak, defensive line coach Andre Patterson and quality control coach AC Patterson.
That's just one team.
The Seahawks had Pete Carroll, assistant offensive line coach Brennan Carroll and Nate Carroll as the wide receivers coach.
If so many coaches are just going to hire their brothers or cousins or uncles or their nieces' brother's aunt, then fresh blood has a tough time getting into the system.

Kenny’s CFB Spot

Is the U back?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2850313-the-return-of-swag-at-the-u
Senior Bowl watch list dropped
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-5-noteworthy-facts-about-2020-senior-bowl-watch-list-162143873.html
Here’s the breakdown of the schools with the most 2020 Senior Bowl watch list players:
Michigan — 15
Auburn — 13
Ole Miss, South Carolina — 11
Georgia, LSU, Mississippi State, Ohio State — 10
Florida, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Tennessee — 9
Missouri, Purdue, Vanderbilt — 8
Alabama, Arkansas, Oregon, Texas — 7
Utah, Iowa, Iowa State, Maryland, Nebraska, North Texas, Syracuse
29 QBs
3. Bama got best WRS? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2849662-meet-cfbs-scariest-unit
4. The legacy of Cedric Benson

#Letstalkaboutit
Jay Z's Roc Nation strikes deal with NFL that causes backlash & criticism from Panthers safety Eric Reid, Colin Kaepernick & Ness Nitty. Reid called it a "disingenuous partnership." https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27387173/jay-z-defends-nfl-deal-panthers-reid-criticl
Antonio Brown frostbite & helmet gate
The receiver is also being sued for not paying $7,000 that he allegedly owes a personal trainer in California.
A celebrity chef in Florida has filed a lawsuit against Antonio Brown over an unpaid bill from January 2018 that totals nearly $40,000.
Nipsey Hussle's birthday & his impact on stopping gentrification in L.A.
Coliseum apparently looks brand new https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/15/nfl-rams-la-coliseum-renovations-updates-complete/
Dak Prescott turned down $30 a year? Is he wrong?
Zeke down to the low 220s. Should he an Cooper take discount?
Hard Knocks review

Fantasy Football Guest from Time Skew Podcast
Potential strategies/sleepers
Old Faces in New Places
Overall strategy insights
Why fantasy football
What’s the mission of the podcast
Raiders, Rams, Chargers fantasy questions?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2849475-fantasy-football-2019-red-flags-you-need-to-avoid#slide8
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2849239-2019-fantasy-football-players-flying-up-boards-this-preseason#slide0
https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/1161306422711242754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1161306422711242754&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnfl-draft
College news
Tate Martell loses Miami quarterback job
Former USC cornerback Jack Jones could end up Arizona State
Jordan Wilmore shining at Utah in first camp

Take or Tangent
Superdome will get $450 million stadium renovations. Saints host Super Bowl in 2024
Minkah Fitzpatrick playing out of position at strong safety & his mom and teammates are calling it out.
11 Most Overpayed NFL players. https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/08/15/the-nfls-11-most-overpaid-players-2/
NFL issues Work Stoppage guide
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2849720-report-nflpa-gave-players-work-stoppage-guide-to-prepare-for-possible-lockout
5. The NFL’s new partnership
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2849262-mike-freemans-10-point-stance-antonio-brown-raiders-marriage-destined-to-fail
Something happened recently that you may not have heard about, but it is one of the most important, and historic, moves the NFL has ever made.
The NFL for years has partnered with a data-gathering firm called Sportradar AG, which distributed statistical information to the media and other entities. But Eben Novy-Williams of Bloomberg reports the NFL is now going to use the company to provide gambling data to legal sports betting operators in this country and overseas.
This is a huge deal. In essence, this is the NFL's first step toward publicly embracing gambling.
While the league has long accepted that wagering happens, it has heretofore been on a more covert level. Injury reports, pregame show picks, etc. Now, since gambling on sports is legal almost everywhere, the NFL doesn't have to be shy. There are billions of dollars involved in gambling, and it is going to secure its portion of that bag.
You would expect no less from the NFL. Or, really, any sports league.

Touchdown or Turnover

Treadwell on the block

Only 22 black signal-callers have been chosen in the first round of the NFL draft. Washington has picked three of them: Jason Campbell (2005) and Robert Griffin III (2012) … TD or TO Haskins will be the best?

Rams not going to Hawaii
Make or Break year for Goff
https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2019-08-14/jared-goff-must-be-difference-rams-super-bowl
Liuget visits Cardinals
JDR added to ESPN

Unnecessary Toughness Rants