Touchdowns and Tangents

#Letstalkaboutit
Pete calls in
Preseason football
Hard Knocks
Duke Johnson traded to Texans. D'Onta Foreman cut by Texans beforehand.
Robert Nkemdiche signed by Dolphins an put on PUP list.
T.O. won't visit Canton yet
Dabo Swinney won't send Kelly Bryant a National championship ring.

Lawndale football interview
Winning State and what it means
Feeling completely disrespected
Replacing the greatest senior class in school history
Transfer culture
Meet the players
Having little to no resources as a program
Coaches paying for most of the football supplies due to lack of funding.
Teams ducking Lawndale

Pete & Cerv are back. Mark drops in as a special guest. Kenny is mad with power over the sound board. It's a serious problem folks.

LETSTALKABOUTIT
HOF Game and Class
Training camp opens. Scuffles, joint practices
Rams and Chargers practice, Hurd and Ed oliver get in fights
Thomas the $100 million man
What does it mean for WR class?
Poll Follow up who gets paid first?
OJ said both running backs should RBS should get paid
Gordon trade after not reaching 10 million request will not be granted Touchdhttps://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/melvin-gordon-reportedly-seeks-trade-from-chargers-but-gm-wont-grant-request/
Zeke and Boys not close, Cowboys won’t be market setters or pay all three https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2847976-stephen-jones-cowboys-damn-sure-wont-be-market-setter-for-new-contracts
Next deadline in Ezekiel Elliott’s holdout comes Tuesday. Players under contract must report 30 days before the season-opener to avoid losing a season toward free agency. Aaron Donald ignored it twice before his record deal. #NFL source: “Low risk, high reward, if you can play!”
5. NFL Top 100: Donald is No. 1, Brady 6, AB 7, Saquon 16?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2847978-aaron-donald-ranks-no-1-in-nfl-network-top-100-players-of-2019-tom-brady-no-6
Dak, Foles, Cooks, Cohen, Nelson, Chandler Jones, Byard, Blake Martinez snubbed
Biggest storylines?

TDT at the Movies
Lynch screening and KB’s review
High school updates. https://www.latimes.com/sports/high-school/story/2019-07-27/la-sp-city-football-coaches-meeting?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true


Take or Tangent
Bucs OC Byron Leftwich spent a decade in the NFL and talks being a black QB
“I wasn’t supposed to be a QB in the NFL. ... Back then, QBs were being trained at seven, eight years old. ... I’m just throwing rocks at seven or eight. … Inner-city kid with no dreams of even thinking I got a shot.”
Mina joining the booth
Mina Kimes is headed to this booth this month to call a Los Angeles Rams preseason game:
“To hear from a few people that my presence might mean something to them is very humbling.” https://www.si.com/tech-media/2019/08/01/espn-mina-kimes-calling-los-angeles-rams-preseason-game-commentator?utm_campaign=sinow&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&xid=socialflow_twitter_si
Baker won’t be an asshole
"I'm not going to be a jackass. I'm gonna talk through it," Mayfield told reporters Wednesday. "I'm gonna harp on it, then I'm going to talk to them. And like I said, we need to be on the same page." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2848000-browns-qb-baker-mayfield-says-he-wont-be-a-jackass-communicating-with-wrs
Zeke and cowboys getting sued 20 mill
College Football News

Touchdown or Turnover
Ryan Khalil comes onto Jets
Theo Riddick to Broncos
Tre boston back to Panthers
Tre Boston says he has not decided yet whether he will join Eric Reid‘s national anthem protest. Says he wants to get a gauge on how ownership feels etc.
Chiefs Corner Tremon Smith moving to rb
Bryce Love not on roster week 1 recovering from ACL
Fitz gonna start in Miami?
Bonus: top 10 nfl games by BR, Tangents on Debate

Unneccessary Toughness Rants

#Letstalkaboutit
Taylor Lewan makes video addressing his PED suspension /.;https://twitter.com/TaylorLewan77/status/1154088287637770243?s=09
Former Ole Miss safety Zedrick Woods retires https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/player-who-ran-the-fastest-40-yard-dash-at-the-2019-nfl-combine-surprisingly-decides-to-retire/
Titans safety Kevin Byard gets 5 year, $70.5 million extension. $31 million in guarantees & now highest paid safety in league history
Notable Training camp cuts and holdouts
Tyler Boyd signs 4 year $43 million extension after breakout season.
Jarran Reed suspended 6 games yet Tyreek Hill won't be punished. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001036289/article/seahawks-dl-jarran-reed-suspended-six-games?icampaign=trendingNews

#takeortangent
Antione Exum song called, "Kaepernick" https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/amp/Antone-Exum-Kaepernick-song-Trump-Bosa-flag-NFL-14097126.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfgate.com%2F49ers%2Farticle%2FAntone-Exum-Kaepernick-song-Trump-Bosa-flag-NFL-14097126.php&data=02%7C01%7CAdam.Schefter%40espn.com%7C780b5b299c0243084c1a08d70c397ffc%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636991313604410489&sdata=fD%2Fpo8Fqq8jRvD1yN9S5b4iF04WXcNIah0SUk76azm0%3D&reserved=0&__twitter_impression=true
Ladarius Webb, Vonta Leach & Willis McGahee will retire as Ravens te first day of training camp
Jay Gruden:
] "Josh Norman avoids contact."https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1154120648429580288?s=09
Nick Bosa signed his rookie deal


Kenny's college football
Griffin brother's forced to cut hair at UCF by their former & now disgraced coach George O'Leary. https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/19/seahawks-shaquill-shaquem-griffin-forced-to-cut-hair-by-college-coach/
Pat Fitzgerald blames young people on their cell phones for low college football game attendance. https://twitter.com/thecoachtube/status/1153064705164042241?s=09
Pac-12 media Day. Utah defensive end Bradlee Anae, "There's nothing worse than playing in front of $60,000 screaming sober white people." On playing BYU in Provo. https://twitter.com/PenguinOfTroy/status/1154160925596774400?s=09
Michigan Coach Jim Harbaugh says at Big 10 media day that transfers should get one free transfer pass anywhere & after that let the rules take effect.
Mackenzie Melton wants to play football again. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/why-ucf-quarterback-mckenzie-milton-is-trying-to-play-college-football-again-after-his-horrific-leg-injury/
Pac 12 to have early morning kick off times.

Part two with Ryan Mancini. Here's the whole Rundown.

LETS TALK ABOUT IT!!!
NFL Street Vs. Blitz Poll update
TOO Close to call 53/47 on IG for Blitz. Street won on Twitter
RUSS SHOULD NOT BRING BACK PERM
Madden Ratings position breakdown
QB
WR: Top 20 receivers beef
CB
DT: Suh is considered a defensive end.
ROLB/LOLB: Position designation
LDE/RDE
These are the most controversial. Kennan Allen & DeMarcus Lawrence boycotting Madden.
Franchise Tag deadline & IMPACT
Grady Jarrett agre_es to new deal
Jadaveon Clowney & Texans don't come to a deal.
Drew Lock signs his rookie deal
Deion Jones signs 4-year $57 million extension with $34 million guaranteed.
Martavis Bryant, Randy gregory apply for reinstatement

CBA Update: 3-day meeting ‘productive’ but nothing came
However, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo added it's "extremely unlikely" the two sides will reach an agreement before Week 1:
Revenue Share biggest issue, 18 schedule another issue, big issues not even coming up
"I don't see an 18-game schedule—under any circumstance—being in the best interest of our players. If somebody wants to make an 18-game proposal, we'll look at it. I haven't seen anything that makes me think that it would be good for the players."
Resume July 29 another meeting
NFL Made roughly $16 bill in revenue
NFL disbursed $8.78 billion in revenue to its clubs from the money it made last year.
In the CBA, the owners get 52 percent of football-related income, while the players get about 48 percent. Argue with the split all you want, but that’s the deal they’ve been playing under since 2011
The money is mostly fueled by the NFL’s television rights deals. It also factors in online purchases and other things the NFL does to license its IP and make money. The $8 billion number was landed on because the Packers have to file how much money is disbursed. It’s pretty transparent in all honestly.
The NFL has bigger goals. It wants to hit $25 billion in revenue. That will be much easier once all their TV deals run out in 2021.
Take or Tangent
Ryan Leaf hired as ESPN College football analyst.
Broncos Receiver Aaron Burbridge retires.
Robert Ayers retires
Cardinals cut Desmond Harrison after felony warrant issued.
Jimbo Fisher says he did nothing wrong at Florida State at SEC media day.
Big 12 Media day: Texas horns down . gesture will be penalized.
James Connor was told he had a week to live after 2015 cancer diagnosis.

Touchdown or turnover
Russell Wilson teaching Future’s son to Football
C.P said S.B don’t mean shit to him
Barkley Mamba mentality?
Zeller holding out?

Bonus
Top Skill position Duos
Football Coaches first Job Trivia?

The first part of the show entailed friend of the show and political correspondent Ryan Mancini giving some BREAKING NEWS on his new job in journalism, his journey, the politics of journalism, politics of politics in journalism and context for the culture. We eventually get to sports we swear.

Kenny & Pete go in the new studio to start off another week.

Old Business: Polls, Guaranteed Money, NBA FA tangents, MAdden Ratings

#Letstalkaboutit
Gurley Blasts NFL-NBA Pay Gap
😳Tobias Harris = two Khalil Macks
🤭OBJ = Ian Mahinmi?!

'I lead the league in TDs last two years...Somebody get $80M and I couldn’t even pronounce their name' 🎥 (LefkoeShow)
Melvin Gordon: Pay or trade me, wants deal with Gurley and Bell

Gould wants trade still
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/robbie-gould-still-unsure-if-hell-report-49ers-if-hes-not-traded The two sides have until July 15 to work out a multiyear contract, or he could sign the one-year tender worth roughly $5 million.

#Kennyscollegefootballspot

Supplemental Draft Jalen Thompson to Cards, West Virginia WR Marcus Simms, Syracuse LB Shyheim Cullen, Northland CC TE Devonaire Clarington and St. Francis DB Bryant Perry are now free agents.

#Takeortangent

Haynesworth needs a kidney after three brain aneurysms
ESPY’s Russ’ Perm
Bob and Stan break bread with Trump

The Patriots apparently won’t be visiting the White House this summer, but the owner of the team was in D.C. on Monday night for a dinner with the President.
The event, held at the Treasury Department, honored the Emir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al Thani.
Robert Kraft sat two spots from President Donald Trump, via Bloomberg.com. Rams owner Stan Kroenke also sat at the President’s table.

#Thatsgoodnews
Peters and Lynch host free carnival in West Oakland
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1149352839736696832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1149352977808941059&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnfl
Lockett with own camp
On June 28, Lockett worked to spread that sentiment at the University of Tulsa’s H.A. Chapman Stadium, hosting over 250 children from ages 7-18 at the Tyler Lockett Football ProCamp for a day of games, instruction, and drills. This was Lockett’s first time hosting a camp in his hometown of Tulsa, after the success of his youth football camps in the Seattle area.

#Touchdownorturnover

Texans won’t hire GM: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2845065-report-texans-wont-hire-gm-will-divide-responsibilities-among-existing-staff

Gurley not concerned about arthritis
https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/10/nfl-rams-todd-gurley-knee-arthritis-reports/

49ers have 11 open training camps

Bonus:

Worse Picks: https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/06/23/45-of-the-worst-no-1-draft-picks-since-2010/
PFF OL: https://www.pff.com/news/pro-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-entering-2019

Kenny & Pete pre-recorded to talk NFL Player's Association news, the 4th of July, worker's rights throughout sports, bad unions, Madden Rookie Ratings & some quick hitters so they could enjoy the day. Peep the brilliance of the realness.

WARNING: Intern Cerv hates coach flights with PDA from other couples & don't you dare give her Sprite with ice. Here's the rundown:

Guest with After the Gridiron Podcast host Lyle

Int. fred Robbins, Rick Mirer, Anthony Trucks, Larry Johnson, Thomas Jones, Robert Mathis, and many CFL players

1st round pick of the BC Lions in the 2001 draft, 3rd overall. 10 year CFL player, retiring in 2011. 2 Grey Cup appearances, winning in 2006.

Where did this idea get started?

How did you start it?

Best Int. so Far?

Dream Interview?

What do you make of players retiring young?

What do you make of players moving into business earlier?

Do players have more freedom for a platform?

Larry Johnson or Thomas Jones?

Who you got in the 40-yard-dash competition.

#letstalkaboutit

40 yards of gold tournament. https://www.40yardsofgold.com/match-ups/

Tyreek Hill has eight hour meeting with NFL
https://amp-nfl-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001034679/article/chiefs-wr-tyreek-hill-meets-with-nfl-investigators?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Daround-the-league%3Bteam%3Dkc%3Bconf%3Dafc%3Bdvsn%3Dacw%3Bplyr%3Dtyreek_hill&p.ct=Around%20the%20NFL&p.adsm=true&p.tcm=%23fff&p.bgc1m=%230964bf&p.bgc2m=%23053a74&sr=amp&usqp=mq331AQA#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s

Cierre Wood & girlfriend indicted on murder & 20 child abuse charges.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/cierre-wood-girlfriend-indicted-murder-child-abuse-charges

Potential guest spot with Tangents on debate


Kenny’s CFB Spot

Mark Emmert: California Schools May Be Banned from NCAA Titles If Bill Passes
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2842582-mark-emmert-california-schools-may-be-banned-from-ncaa-titles-if-bill-passes.amp.html

Survey: 19 NCAA trainers say coaches played athletes deemed medically unfit to play.
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2842722-survey-19-of-ncaa-trainers-say-coaches-played-athletes-deemed-medically-unfit.amp.html

The Fall of Florida State
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2841875-the-mess-jimbo-left-inside-fsus-fall-and-willie-taggarts-plan-to-rise-again.amp.html


Take or Tangent
Panthers gonna be on Amazon's "All or Nothing" http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001034523/article/2018-panthers-to-be-chronicled-in-all-or-nothing
Redskins brass: "If Haskins starts it'll be a group decision between coach, owner & GM
Rams visit Raiders for joint practices

TD or TO:

Fisher’s moving advice: "There's nothing easy about it," Fisher said. "It's a very complex process. First of all, you have to take care of the players. First and foremost, it's all about the players. You've gotta communicate with them. There are so many questions. You've got to be able to communicate with them. The questions, the unanswered things can be debilitating for them."
Chris Long: I Knew Donald Was a HOFer at His First Training Camp
Wagner extension before season?


GOOD NEWS
Shaq Lawson to pay for slain 11 year-old girls funeral. https://profootballtalk-nbcsports-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/27/shaq-lawson-paying-for-funeral-of-11-year-old-girl-shot-and-killed-in-south-carolina/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQA#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fprofootballtalk.nbcsports.com%2F2019%2F06%2F27%2Fshaq-lawson-paying-for-funeral-of-11-year-old-girl-shot-and-killed-in-south-carolina%2F
Last year, Seahawks LB K.J. Wright raised over $75K for wells in Kenya.This summer, he’s returning to check on things himself
Bonus
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2842577-study-cowboys-patriots-eagles-giants-fans-ranked-best-in-the-nfl

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2842508-nfl-players-trying-to-avoid-the-bust-label-in-2019#slide0

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/06/23/45-of-the-worst-no-1-draft-picks-since-2010/


RANTS

Pete been eating Vegan all week an Kenny's migraines cleared up. Intern Cerv served up her best tangents yet. Pete hates Toy Story and Kenny apologized about his alleged "insensitive" tweet about peanut butter going in the refrigerator. Here's the rundown.



Hard Knocks with Tee Biggs

Open Forum
NBA Tangents https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1141862795031568385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1141862795031568385&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnfl

Polls: Favre, Juice,

#letstalkabout it

Carrie Underwood getting sued for Sunday Night Football Song
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/06/20/entertainment/carrie-underwood-nfl-nbc-sued-sunday-night-football/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

Pete's anchor Tangents
https://anchor.fm/touchdowns-tangents/episodes/The-Board-Podcast-gets-Listens-e4b4hb

Kenny apologizes for offensive peanut butter tweet. (Kenny apologized? What!!!!?)
https://anchor.fm/touchdowns-tangents/episodes/Peanut-Butter-to-Refrigerator-Transfer-Request-Denied-e4d162

NFL front office beef
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patriots-reportedly-livid-with-executive-who-left-for-new-role-with-texans-earlier-this-year/

RIP Pat Bowlen

Josh McCown retired. Why do washed ass backup QB's get so much love in this era?

Pass Interference Rule finalized
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27017122/nfl-finalizes-pi-replay-challenge-rule-2019

After extension with Vikings, Kyle Rudolph addresses Patriot trade rumors.
https://sports.yahoo.com/kyle-rudolph-says-never-real-173104267.html

Take or Tangent
Von Miller wants to break Bruce Smith sack record.
Baker Mayfield v.s. Texas...again
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2841908-browns-baker-mayfield-on-texas-qb-sam-ehlinger-hope-he-knows-i-dont-like-him.amp.html
3. Cardinals Nkemdiche in trouble https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2841898-cardinals-robert-nkemdiche-arrested-for-speeding-driving-on-suspended-license
4. Illinois football keeps getting transfers
5. Last Chance U comes July 19th
.
Touchdown or Turnover
OBJ off the grid https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2841842-odell-beckham-jr-says-on-ig-that-hes-going-away-for-training-until-july-1
Saints want to make Thomas highest paid WR https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2841672-report-saints-comfortable-making-michael-thomas-highest-paid-wr-on-new-contract
Vick said Kyler is the closest thing to him
Tyler Lockett wants to keep returning kicks
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/20/tyler-lockett-still-wants-to-handle-returns-though-seahawks-exploring-options/

Bonus:

NFL MVP Odds
https://twitter.com/br_betting/status/1141457909198417920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1141457909198417920&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnfl
Rookie of the year
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2838862-nfl-insiders-pick-2019-rookie-of-the-year-candidates#slide0

After a day of beers, museums and the NBA Finals, Kenny, Pete, intern Cerv and friend of the TDT family/political correspondent journalist Ryan Mancini talk NFL news and politics. We got out some excellent perspective on the political landscape in relation to millenials even though it almost killed Ryan. This podcast is quarter life crisis counseling adjacent.

Raiders on Hard Knocks.w/ Tee Biggs
Impact
Relevance
Potential outcome
Impact of the content itself
Karl Joseph a Raider for life? Arden Key puts on 15 pounds.
Random Wrestling question from KB

Old Business
Reggie Bush v.s. Darren McFadden
Warrick Dunn v.s. DeAngelo Williams
Who is the best backup QB of all time?
Criteria
Question results
Categories

#letstalkaboutit
Cam Jordan gets 3-year $52 with $40 in guaranteed money. Is he a HOF player?

Jadaveon Clowney, Yannick Ngakoue an other prominent names skip mini camp

League still finalizing PI Rule
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2840933-nfl-updates-possible-pi-review-rule-includes-hail-mary-replay-initiated-review

Kellen Winslow II gets prison time for taping a 58 year-old homeless woman. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/06/13/kellen-winslow-jr-ii-crimes-rape-trial-homeless-woman-elderly

#GoodNews
Cam, Desean… Anthony Lynn building a school in Tanzania https://twitter.com/EdwerderRFA/status/1139267465744146433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1139267465744146433&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Flos-angeles-chargers

College football news

Take or Tangent
Trevor Lawrence said he’d never sit out a bowl
Jets hire Philly VP of player personnel as GM
Houston fires their GM after 18 months.(Accussed of tampering by pats) https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2840798-report-patriots-file-tampering-charges-against-texans-over-nick-caserio-talks
Jalen Ramsey won't get contract extension
Steve McNair and Eddie George get numbers retired

Touchdown or Turnover
Andre Branch visits Cardinals
Gurley on Knee: "I had bigger problems to worry about coming out of college," he said of his injured knee (h/t Josh Alper of Pro Football Talk). "This is small."
McVay wants Goff for a long time: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/11/sean-mcvay-i-hope-jared-goff-is-stuck-with-me-for-a-long-time/
Kirk Cousins says he is .500 QB but wants to go to next level
Rishard Matthews signs with Saints
Evergreen…
PFF Top 50: https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-pff50-the-nfls-50-best-players-entering-the-2019-season?utm_source=cj&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=cjaff&cjevent=c6d479be8e1e11e9811200ac0a1c0e11