In this episode of Cloud 9fin, Tanvi Gupta, global head of CLOs at 9fin, talks with Sumer Chopra, director at Alumia, to discuss how CLOs have gone from an exotic to an essential product in the eyes of institutional investors.

They discuss what’s led to the boom of family offices allocating to CLOs, double-Bs and single-Bs outperforming CLO equity, and how some endowments still struggle with the legacy bias from the GFC. They go on to unpack what the ideal pitchbook from a CLO fund manager looks like and the growth of evergreen funds, among other things.

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