In this episode of Tranche Talk, we welcome back Bank of America’s Pratik Gupta who talks with 9fin’s Tanvi Gupta on the defining moments of 2025 and what the new year will bring for CLOs.

They discuss CLO being the best asset class to sell in a rate cutting cycle and the opportunities to rotate into RMBS AAAs, separating facts from fiction for private credit CLO fears and the demand landscape between Japanese banks, US banks and ETFs.

They also delve into CLO equity performance, opportunities for CLO managers in portfolio trading and how CLO managers should differentiate themselves when they’re all chasing the same conservative assets.