This week, Erik sits down with Joe Hudson and Tara Howley, the extraordinary couple behind Art of Accomplishment, whose coaching has helped CEOs like Sam Altman. They share their journey from a toxic relationship to a deeply connected partnership, offering personal stories, practical strategies, and insights on how self-growth, therapy, and commitment to transformation can foster resilient, loving relationships.

Modern Relationships is a podcast from Turpentine. Learn more: www.turpentine.co

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LINK/S:

Art of Accomplishment: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/
Joe and Esme — The Teenage Years: https://youtu.be/Eg70lbiElrI?si=bK-8FB-bzYh6HqL1

How to Be a Parent (Without Messing Everything Up) | Joe Hudson and Nathan Baschez: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/podcast/how-to-be-a-parent-without-messing-everything-up-joe-hudson-and-nathan-baschez

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Chapters

• 00:00:00 Preview and Intro
• 00:01:48 Disclosure
• 00:02:54 Welcome Joe and Tara
• 00:03:01 How Joe and Tara Met
• 00:13:03 Early Challenges and Growth
• 00:14:11 The Role of Self-Development
• 00:16:39 Navigating Relationship Dynamics
• 00:17:14 Sponsor: Relationship Hero
• 00:18:49 Transformation and Trust
• 00:27:10 Marriage Requirements and Challenges
• 00:28:27 Evaluating a Life Partner
• 00:30:27 Trade-offs and Compromises in Marriage
• 00:35:57 The Importance of Being Seen
• 00:43:11 Triggers and Personal Growth
• 00:44:53 Grieving and Moving On
• 00:46:55 Choosing the Right Partner
• 00:53:54 Life Changes and Marriage
• 00:55:18 Wrap