In a falling out that was as caustic as it was inevitable, the world’s most powerful man and the world’s richest man traded some very public barbs in a showdown over a landmark Republican spending bill. Lurching from threats of terminating Tesla’s governmental subsidies to claims that Trump was “in the Epstein files”, Scott Lucas, Professor of International Politics at the Clinton Institute, University College Dublin, joins Anton to discuss where it all went wrong for Elon Musk and Donald Trump.