President Trump stunned the world and horrified his Arab allies when he proposed that the US should take over Gaza and rebuild it as the "riviera of the Middle East." But where did the idea come from and could it actually happen?

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Guest: Josie Ensor, US correspondent, The Times

Host: Manveen Rana.

Producer: Edith Rousselot.

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Photo: Kobby Barda, Israeli historian who shared an image of the plan for the reconstruction of Gaza City on social media.

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