Two Therapists At A Bar

In this episode, we go deeper into the conversation that started with ADHD, this time focusing on medication. What actually counts as medication? Is it only what’s prescribed by a doctor, or is it anything we use to change how we feel, focus, or function? We explore how broad that definition really is, the staggering statistics around medication use in the U.S., and what that might say about our culture. We share our personal takes on what’s helpful, what’s harmful, and why we need to be more thoughtful about how we define and use “medication.”

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It seems like everyone is talking about ADHD lately but does that mean everyone actually has it? In this episode, we explore the growing conversation around ADHD: Are more people being accurately diagnosed, or are we confusing normal struggles with clinical symptoms? We talk about Dale’s experience learning he had ADHD as an adult, how he manages it, and what helped most: medication, supplements, and/or lifestyle changes? We also unpack why so many people are just now discovering ADHD later in life, and whether having a diagnosis is helpful or limiting.

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In this episode, we explore a tough but important question: Am I being abused, or is this just conflict? We unpack where the line is between healthy disagreement and emotional harm, whether abuse can be unintentional, and how to recognize the difference. We also ask: Are we all capable of being abusive? And how do we engage in conflict without crossing that line?

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You’ve heard the promises: “I’ll change.” “This was the last time.” But nothing’s different. In this episode, we speak to those loving someone with an addiction and the addicted individual. How do you know if change is actually possible? How do you tell the difference between hope and denial? You’ll learn what to look for beyond words and what the change process really involves. If you're tired of the cycle, confused about what to believe, or just trying to protect your peace, this conversation is for you.

00:00  Dale hates flies & other Africa stories

10:10 My partner has an addiction, should I stay or go?

14:33 Do they really want to change?

18:40  Talk is cheap

22:36 When doing your best to change is not enough

27:17 Owning your mistakes

35:40 The process of change

53:53 Are some addictions stronger than others?

59:40 Reaching out for help

1:03:52 What is rock bottom?

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In this episode, we ask each other a simple question: Why do we do what we do? That sparks a deeper conversation about the heart of therapy. Is it just about fixing problems—or is there something more meaningful at play? We share our personal answers and explore whether a therapist’s personal beliefs matter, and if true objectivity is even possible. We also take on a common question: Should therapists give advice—and when is it actually helpful?

00:00 Intro

03:10 Is the goal of therapy to eliminate suffering?

07:30 Meaningless vs meaningful suffering

26:38 Can therapists truly be objective?

44:17 Should therapists give advice?

56:50 Has therapy replaced church?

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Who comes first in a man's life, his mother, his wife, or his daughter? In this episode, we explore this trending dilemma, the most common answers we’ve seen, and share our own takes. Using principles from family systems theory and relationship science, we dive into the dynamics behind each role, the emotional weight of the question, and why it hits so hard.

00:00 Intro

01:14 Dale's blue lipstick

06:35 Choosing between mom, wife or daughter

12:40 Why is "wife" never chosen as top priority?

16:39 Spouse vs. Kids

47:11 Spouse vs. Parents

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Failure is inevitable but what do you do after it happens? In this episode, we talk about what failure really is, the different levels of failure (from minor slip-ups to life-altering moments), and whether there's actually any benefit to falling short. We also share some practical approaches for processing failure, learning from it, and moving forward.

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Why is it so hard to have honest conversations with friends? In this episode, we unpack the unique dynamics of friendship that make difficult conversations feel so loaded, and why avoiding them can hurt more in the long run. We share real examples from our own lives, explore when it’s necessary to speak up, how to bring things up respectfully, and how to listen well, even when you don’t agree.

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Is self-care overrated or are we just doing it wrong? In this episode, we break down common myths about self-care, the ways we often sabotage our own self-care routines, and what really makes self-care effective. We also share how starting jiu-jitsu became a form of self-care for both of us, and explore what elements create a meaningful and sustainable self-care practice. If you’ve ever felt like self-care isn’t working, this conversation is for you.

00:00 Intro

01:09 Dale’s pedicure experience

03:50 How do we define good self-care?

07:58 Why do we find ourselves doom scrolling as a form of self-care?

15:48 How we sabotage self-care: performing instead of transforming

16:25 How Dale started jiu jitsu as a hobby

27:27 Dale’s other hobbies and how they are different

34:53 Is self-care selfish?

36:58 The five elements of responsible self-care

42:10 How David started jiu jitsu

49:51 The main goal of self-care

53:19 Self-care is much more than a hobby or downtime

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In this special Q&A episode, we’re diving into your questions! We discuss online therapy vs. in-person therapy, how therapists decide when to listen vs. challenge a client, and what to do when your sense of purpose is shaken—like after losing a job. We also explore concerns around “over-therapizing,” self-diagnosis, and the fear of being labeled in therapy. Plus, we share practical ways to check in with yourself emotionally and physically when you feel anxious or stuck.

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00:00 Intro

03:17 Is BetterHelp & other online therapy worth it?

14:49 How do I check in with myself emotionally and calm my anxiety?

32:20 How do I bring up a self-diagnosis with my therapist without being labeled/dismissed?

46:58 When should a therapist listen vs challenge a client?

53:21 What happens when your sense of purpose is shaken? (e.g. losing a job that gave you meaning).

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