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We figure it's fair to start the show with what we think so far.

As we get more information, our views may change, but as of recording, this was our understanding of the situation. Caleb lays out his takes in the first episode and John follows in the second. 

Brand Note: We called this show Holding Space for the first 6 episodes. Now we call it WTUFO. It's better, right? We hope you like it.

Finally, Caleb says the word "militarial" in this episode, and you can rest assured that he feels appropriately stupid about this. 

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Original Air Date: January 9, 2024

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