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'B Strong' is a former Christian who lost his faith after examining the claims of the Bible.  His booklet "Jesus is a hoax" claims, among many things, that the Apostle Paul was mentally ill due to his fanatical pre and post-conversion behaviour.  It also claims Jesus is one of the greatest hoaxes of history.

John Tancock (JT) is a Welsh church leader and apologist.  He engages the sceptical arguments on Paul and Jesus.  He believes Jesus is one of the best attested historical character of antiquity and that the Apostle Paul one of his most reliable (and perfectly sane) witnesses.

They will continue the debate at the "Unbelievable?" Group of the Premier Community http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable

For JT's Youtube apologetics videos see http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=john+tancock&suggested_categories=22&page=1

To get in touch with JT directly email [email protected]

For B Strong's booklets and blog see http://s2.webstarts.com/wowbooks/

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From shamanism, hallucenogenic drugs, out-of-body experiences, to being "filled with the Spirit".  Christian author and barrister Charles Foster draws on these and many more  to examine the biological evidence of what happens when people claim supernatural experiences.

Is there room left for God?  Yes, says Foster, whose own experience of the Holy Spirit led him to research why our brains seem to be wired for God to communicate with us.

Susan Blackmore is an atheist and Professor of Psychology.  She reveals how her own 'Out of Body Experience' as a student led to research that ultimately convinced her that no "supernatural" activity is needed to account for these type of phenomena.

They debate the issues, including whether Consciousness itself can be given a naturalistic explanation.   

For Charles Foster see http://www.charlesfoster.co.uk/

To buy "Wired for God?" visit http://www.amazon.co.uk or click here

For Sue Blackmore see http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/

To buy "Consciousness: An introduction" visit http://www.amazon.co.uk or click here

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The first of two shows featuring atheist US physicist Victor Stenger, author of NY Times bestseller "God: The failed Hypothesis".

Stenger claims that Christian belief has been a block to science historically and that science has shown the Universe to look "Exactly as it would if there were no God".

Steve Fuller is Professor of Sociology at Warwick University.  He takes issue with the current wave of scientific atheism and in his new book "Science" (The Art of Living Series, Acumen) says that science can't be done without the concept of God at its heart.

For Victor Stenger see http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/VWeb/Home.html

To buy the book "God: the failed hypothesis" http://www.amazon.co.uk/God-Failed-Hypothesis-Science-Shows/dp/1591024811

For Steve Fuller see http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/sociology/staff/academicstaff/sfuller/fullers_index

For "Science (Art of Living)" http://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Art-Living-Steve-Fuller/dp/1844652041

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Unbelievable? 6 Feb 2010 - Do we need God to Do Science? Steve Fuller and Thomas Dixon debate Intelligent Design and the Dover Trial

Unbelievable? 8 Nov 2008 - Richard Dawkins & John Lennox's Oxford debate - a review with interviews and comment

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Can we use science to ascertain whether prayer works?  Data from a series of prayer experiments is part of the evidence that US atheist scientist Victor Stenger uses to build the case against God in his best-selling book "God: The failed hypothesis".

David Bartholomew is a Christian and Emeritus Professor of Statistics at the London School of Economics.  He has written a paper contesting Stenger's use of data to disprove God as invalid.

They debate the issues on whether we can detect or disprove God using scientific methods.

For Victor Stenger see http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/VWeb/Media.html

For David Bartholomew see http://www.djbartholomew.com/

For the Science and Christian Belief Journal his paper will be published in http://www.scienceandchristianbelief.org

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Dr Adam Bradford believes he has discovered a significant new insight into Jesus Christ.  In "The Jesus Discovery" he explains why he believes that Jesus was not an unschooled peasant preacher, as many depict him.  Instead, he claims that Jesus came from a middle class family and would have been schooled in Jerusalem's top school of Rabbis.  This, he says, explains how the religious authorities treated him before and after his trial.

Is there evidence for this view, and what difference would it make if it were true?

New Testament Scholar David Instone-Brewer debates the evidence with Adam.

For "The Jesus Discovery" website http://www.thejesusdiscovery.com/

To order the book http://www.templehouse-publishing.com/books.htm

For David Instone-Brewer see http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/index.php?page=david-instone-brewer

For his work on divorce & remarriage see http://www.instonebrewer.com/divorceremarriage/

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The Bible is often criticised for either supporting or not condemning the institution of slavery.  So how should we treat portions of Scripture in both the Old and New Testaments that relate to slavery?  Why does the Old Testament contain laws regarding the treatment of slaves? Does Paul condemn or affirm the institution?

Bob Price is a former US church minister whose doubts about the Bible led him to ultimately reject evangelical Christian faith.  He says that the Bible is a book that reflects the time it was written in.  Slavery was acceptable and the early Christians regrettably followed suit, and did not challenge the prevailing status quo.

David Instone-Brewer is a New Testament Scholar at Tyndale House, Cambridge.  He says that, in its cultural context, the Bible goes as far as it can towards an anti-slavery message and that Christians have been at the forefront of anti-slavery movements.

For Bob Price see  http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/

For David Instone-Brewer see http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/index.php?page=david-instone-brewer

For his Visual Sermons see http://www.visualsermons.co.uk/

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This second show addresses whether the church is homophobic in its attitude towards gay people.  Would a gay person feel welcome at an evangelical church?  Should practising gays be allowed to become church members or receive communion?  Has the church focussed on the gay issue to the exclusion of all other sins?

Mike Dark of the organisation "Accepting Evangelicals" is a gay Christian in a same sex relationship.  He says he experienced rejection and homophobia in his church when he "came out" as gay, but has since found a church where same sex relationships are welcomed.

John Richardson (who blogs as the Ugley Vicar) is part of the conservative-evangelical Anglican group Reform.  He believes there is a line to be drawn when it comes to the church condoning same sex activity among its members.

Martin Hallett is the former director of The True Freedom Trust.  As a Christian of homosexual orientation he chooses to remain celibate, believing the Bible does not condone same sex activity.  But he says the church is often guilty of homophobia too.

For Mike Dark see http://www.acceptingevangelicals.org/

For John Richardson see http://ugleyvicar.blogspot.com/ or http://www.reform.org.uk/

For Martin Hallett see http://www.truefreedomtrust.co.uk/

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Evangelical Christians hold that sexual relations outside of marriage are against Biblical mandate and have negative moral and social consequences.

In modern society, as marriage becomes less common and most people are sexually active from their teens, is this belief outmoded and irrelevant?

Sue Meyer describes herself as an "Atheist freethinking feminist".  She claims that Christian marriage has historically been used as a way of subjugating women.  She says that the modern climate where people are at liberty to have sex with who they want, when they want is a welcome change.

Faith Forster is one of the founders of the Ichthus Christian Fellowship network of churches in the UK.  She says that the Biblical principle of keeping sex within the marriage bond is given for the good of both individuals and society.

For Faith Forster visit http://www.ichthus.org.uk/

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In response to listener requests Justin hosts two shows dealing with Homosexuality and Christian faith.

This first show addresses the main scriptural passages that relate to homosexuality.  Are the prohibitions against same sex acts in the Old Testament relevant to today?  What is the correct interpretation of the apostle Paul's writing on "homosexual offenders" in Romans, Corinthians and elsewhere?  Were Jonathan and King David gay lovers?

Mike Dark of the organisation "Accepting Evangelicals" is a gay Christian in a same sex relationship.  He believes that Old and New Testament prohibitions on homosexuality need to be understood in light of their cultural context and that they do not preclude faithful, loving same sex relationships today.

John Richardson (who blogs as the Ugley Vicar) is part of the conservative-evangelical Anglican group Reform.  He believes the remit of scripture clearly stands against all forms of homosexual behaviour.

Jeremy Marks of the gay affirming Christian support organisation "Courage UK" explains why they had a radical change of mind on same sex relationships in 2000.

For Mike Dark see http://www.acceptingevangelicals.org/

For John Richardson see http://ugleyvicar.blogspot.com/ or http://www.reform.org.uk/

For Jeremy Marks see http://www.courage.org.uk/

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Peter Hitchens is a writer and regular columnist for the Mail on Sunday.  Unlike his atheist brother Christopher, Peter is a committed Christian having himself been an atheist in younger years.

His new book "The Rage Against God" challenges the anti-theism of his brother and the 'new atheism', taking as its starting point a debate they both took part in two years ago.

He debates with atheist Adam Rutherford, a scientific broadcaster and writer, on whether society can function without a God-given moral compass at its centre.  They cover issues such as faith, secularism, the church, atheist states and abortion in this wide ranging discussion.

You can buy "The Rage against God" at http://premier.org.uk/shop

For Peter Hitchens' Blog see http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

For Adam Rutherford see http://adamrutherford.com/

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