David George Haskell, Professor of Biology and Environmental Studies from the University of the South (USA) discusses his fascinating book, The Songs of Trees: Stories From Nature's Great Connectors (Black Inc). Laureate Professor Nicholas Talley AC, Editor-in-Chief of The Medical Journal of Australia (MJA), speaks with Amy about the coronavirus pandemic. They discuss the state of ICU bed and ventilator capacity in Australia, widespread concerns over the availability of personal protective equipment (PPE), whether Australia’s testing criteria needs to be expanded, and what the MJA's new COVID-19 surge modelling says about our health system’s ability to cope with increased demand. Dr Emma Shortis, from RMIT's EU Centre of Excellence, on the latest in US politics, including Trump's handling of COVID-19. Plus Ben Eltham on federal politics, including the most recent economic and health announcements and what they mean in practice.