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You came into this divorce ready to fight, win, and make sure he didn't walk away with anything he didn't deserve. But somewhere between the attorneys, arguments, and back-and-forth, the fighting stopped being a strategy and became the whole divorce.
In this episode of Uncoupled and Unfiltered, I sit down with Cherie Morris — attorney turned divorce coach and founder of Dear Divorce Coach — to unpack how smart women can become their own worst enemy in divorce. We talk about money, high-conflict splits, co-parenting, what judges actually see, and whether two people who went to war can ever truly be friends on the other side. Raw, real, and zero fluff.
Key Topics Covered:
“This comes down to the boundaries that we set, and we get to set the boundaries. It's all about what we allow, not what someone else does.” - Cherie Morris
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Connect with Cherie Morris:
Website: www.DearDivorceCoach.com
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@deardivorcecoach
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deardivorcecoach/
Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/DearDivorceCoach/?_rdc=1&_rdr#
About Our Guest: Cherie Morris
Cherie Morris is an attorney turned divorce coach and the founder of Dear Divorce Coach. Having sat on every side of the divorce table — as a lawyer, as a coach, and personally — she brings a rare, full-picture perspective to one of life's most disorienting experiences. Cherie works with people who are ready to stop letting the process destroy them and start making decisions that actually serve their future. Her approach is direct, grounded, and built on one core belief: there is a smarter way through this.
This Episode Is For You If:
Connect with Ksenia Muench:
Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/
Website: https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvmuench/
Substack: https://substack.com/@thriveagaindc
Email: [email protected]
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In this episode, I’m joined by Livi North, founder of Unfuck Your Coparenting, who helps parents navigate high-conflict co-parenting, parallel parenting, post-separation control, and the emotional challenges that follow divorce.
We dive into what it takes to co-parent with someone whose anger toward their ex affects their ability to prioritize their children. We explore parallel parenting, how counter-parenting develops in high-conflict dynamics, and how to protect your emotional well-being while staying grounded for your children. We also discuss why the justice system can sometimes seem to protect a$$holes over the victims.
Finally, we tackle one of the biggest questions parents ask after a high-conflict separation: Does it ever actually end?
Key Topics Covered:
“You can’t co-parent with somebody who hates you more than they love their children.” - Livi North
Connect with Livi North:
Website: unfuckyourcoparenting.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@UNFUCKYourCoparenting
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unfuckyourcoparenting/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@unfuckyourcoparenting
About Our Guest: Livi North
Livi North is the founder of Unfuck Your Coparenting, where she helps parents navigate high-conflict co-parenting, parallel parenting, post-separation control, and the legal and emotional challenges that can follow divorce. Drawing from personal experience and her work supporting parents in difficult co-parenting dynamics, Livi focuses on practical strategies to help people stop reacting, protect their peace, and parent with clarity instead of fear.
This Episode Is For You If:
Connect with Ksenia Muench:
Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/
Website: https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvmuench/
Substack: https://substack.com/@thriveagaindc
Email: [email protected]
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On today’s episode of *Uncoupled & Unfiltered*, we’re cutting through the noise and getting real about navigating divorce, from considering it to dealing with the aftermath.
We’re joined by Cary Jacobson, founder and managing partner of Jacobson Family Law. After nearly a decade handling family law litigation, from custody battles and divorce to child support and post-divorce enforcement, Cary saw firsthand how litigation can tear families apart. She ultimately stepped away from the courtroom to focus on helping families stay out of it.
In this episode, we explore what collaborative divorce really means, when mediation can help or backfire, and how to determine which path may make the most sense for your situation.
Key Topics Covered:
“My rule of thumb is, even if they can agree on one thing- even if it's narrowing the issues- they are having a successful mediation because that in and of itself is going to reduce the emotional strain; it's going to reduce their costs.” - Cary Jacobson
About Our Guest: Cary Jacobson
Cary Jacobson, Esquire, is the founder and managing partner of Jacobson Family Law. With nearly a decade of experience practicing family law, she has represented clients in matters including separation, divorce, custody, child support, and post-divorce enforcement. Through her litigation experience, Cary saw how family conflict can be damaging to both parents and children, leading her to focus on alternative dispute resolution. As a certified mediator and collaborative divorce attorney, she helps clients navigate mediation, collaborative divorce, and separation agreements to resolve family disputes without court intervention and keep unnecessary drama out of the divorce process.
Who This Episode Is For:
Connect with Cary Jacobson:
Website: https://jacobsonfamilylaw.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jacobsonfamilylaw/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caryjacobson
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1vZ9kkhd4LPpB1yEqK7U9w
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jacobsonfamilylaw/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jacobsonfamilylaw/
Connect with Ksenia Muench:
Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/
Website: https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvmuench/
Substack: https://substack.com/@thriveagaindc
Email: [email protected]
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Want to work with Ksenia? The next cohort is forming now- https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
On today’s episode of Uncoupled & Unfiltered, we’re talking about the support people in high-conflict divorces actually need.
We’re joined by Beth Slate, founder and CEO of Insight Divorce Solutions, a Certified Divorce Coach and Mediator with more than 40 years of business consulting experience and two decades working with law firms. She’s also supported families as a domestic violence advocate, CASA, and guardian ad litem.
Having navigated her own high-conflict divorce, Beth brings a unique perspective to the process. We discuss the role of divorce coaches, how to choose the right one, red flags to watch for, and why your attorney shouldn’t have to carry the entire emotional weight of your divorce.
Key Topics Covered:
“Your body's your truth teller. So when you're looking for somebody to work with, even just in life in general, pay attention to your body.” - Beth Slate
About Our Guest: Beth Slate
Beth Slate is the founder and CEO of Insight Divorce Solutions and a Certified Divorce Coach, Certified Mediator, and Certified Change Management Practitioner. With over 40 years as a business consultant and two decades partnering with hundreds of law firms, she brings a rare combination of strategic expertise and deep human compassion to the divorce process. Beth's approach is shaped by her own experience navigating a high-conflict divorce, as well as years of community service as a domestic violence advocate, CASA for foster children, and guardian ad litem in high-conflict custody cases.
This Episode Is For:
Connect with Beth Slate:
Website: www.coachingthroughdivorce.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coachingthroughdivorce/
Connect with Ksenia Muench:
Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/
Website: https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvmuench/
Substack: https://substack.com/@thriveagaindc
Email: [email protected]
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Want to work with Ksenia? The next cohort is forming now- https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
On today's episode, I am joined by Marlene Shiner — a divorce coach with a PhD in Law from Cornell University and three decades of family law experience.
Marlene didn't stumble into coaching because law got hard. She left a career most attorneys spend their whole lives building because she saw what the fight was costing families. That decision — and everything thirty years in a courtroom taught her — is exactly what makes this conversation different.
We are getting into what divorce coaches actually do, how they work alongside your attorney, and what they can do for you that your lawyer simply cannot. And we're hearing it straight from someone who spent thirty years on the other side of that table.
Key Topics Covered:
“It's not the divorce that causes the problem; it's how you divorce.” - Marlene Shiner
About Our Guest: Marlene Shiner
Marlene Shiner holds a J.D. from Osgoode Hall Law School and a J.S.D. from Cornell Law School. Dr. Shiner is a zealous advocate in litigation and a calm, dedicated third-party neutral in mediation. She operates a boutique family law firm in Toronto, handling high-conflict, complex divorce cases.
Dr. Shiner specializes in all facets of family law, including child custody and visitation, child support and spousal support, same-sex marriage and cohabitation, property division including pensions, inheritances and the matrimonial home, domestic contracts, adoption and grandparents' rights.
Dr. Shiner has been in practice for over thirty years and is proficient in resolving family disputes both in and out of court.
Who This Episode Is For:
Connect with Marlene Shiner:
Website: www.marleneshinerlaw.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marleneshiner_/
Connect with Ksenia Muench:
Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/
Website: https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvmuench/
Substack: https://substack.com/@thriveagaindc
Email: [email protected]
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Want to work with Ksenia? The next cohort is forming now- https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
In this episode, I’m joined by Lyerly Spongberg, a divorce coach and co-parenting specialist who helps people prepare for divorce before entering the legal process.
We discuss what to expect—and how to prepare—when being divorced by a terrorist, including protecting yourself emotionally and strategically, navigating co-parenting, and managing the weight of parenting responsibilities.
Key Topics Covered:
“How can you strategically provide them with a quote-unquote win while also benefiting yourself?” - Lyerly Spongberg
About Our Guest: Lyerly Spongberg
Lyerly Spongberg is a DCA Certified ADR Divorce Coach, Pre-Mediation Divorce Coach, Co-Parenting Specialist, and Trauma-Informed and Coercive Control Coach. Through her national practice, Step Up With Lyerly, she helps individuals navigate divorce with clarity, calm, and confidence, focusing on emotional steadiness, strategic communication, and child-centered outcomes. Drawing from her own high-conflict divorce and experience raising a blended family of eight, Lyerly brings both professional expertise and lived experience to supporting clients through every stage of divorce and post-divorce life.
Who This Episode Is For:
My 10 Steps to Divorce With Clarity and Calm - https://mailchi.mp/stepupwithlyerly.com/10-step-divorce-prep-guide
Connect with Lyerly Spongberg:
Website: https://stepupwithlyerly.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stepup_withlyerly/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StepUpWithLyerly
Connect with Ksenia Muench:
Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/
Website: https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvmuench/
Substack: https://substack.com/@thriveagaindc
Email: [email protected]
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Divorce doesn't just end a marriage — it reshapes your finances, your family, and your future. In this episode of Uncoupled and Unfiltered, the host sits down with Karen Covy — divorce coach, attorney, mediator, and author — who has spent decades guiding people through one of life's most complex transitions. With her rare dual perspective as both a courtroom attorney and a certified divorce coach, Karen breaks down what most people don't learn until it's too late.
Whether you're just starting to consider divorce or already in the middle of it, this conversation is packed with practical, actionable guidance to help you make smarter decisions, avoid costly mistakes, and come out the other side with your life — and finances — intact.
Key Topics Covered:
“The only person that you can control is yourself, so the question becomes ‘what skills can you learn to protect yourself and keep that relationship at least a functional level for as long as you need it for the kids?‘” - Karen Covy
About Our Guest: Karen Covy
Karen Covy is a Chicago-based divorce attorney turned divorce coach, mediator, and author. She founded her coaching practice after witnessing firsthand how the legal system often leaves people emotionally and financially devastated — and set out to change that. Karen helps clients make informed, intentional decisions so they can move forward with clarity and confidence.
She is also the host of The Good Divorce Show™, where she shares real stories and expert insights aimed at changing the cultural narrative around divorce and showing families that a healthier, more collaborative path forward is possible.
Who This Episode Is For:
Connect with Karen Covy:
Website: https://karencovy.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karencovy/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KarenCovy
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karencovylawyer/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/KarenCovy
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@karen.covy
Connect with Ksenia Muench:
Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/
Website: https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvmuench/
Substack: https://substack.com/@thriveagaindc
Email: [email protected]
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Want to work with Ksenia? The next cohort is forming now- https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
On this episode of Uncoupled & Unfiltered, I sit down with Sol Kennedy — Founder of Best Interest, the AI co-parenting app that WIRED called "lifesaving" for high-conflict families. Dr. Ramani was brought in to back the science behind it — and if that name means anything to you, you already know this app carries real clinical weight.
This is not just another co-parenting app. This one was built differently — designed to defuse conflict, protect your well-being, and help you respond instead of react. And if you've ever white-knuckled your way through the 20th email from your co-parent in a single day, you know exactly why that matters.
Because when you're not triggered, when you're not emotionally charged — you show up better. As a parent. In court. In your life.
Best Interest keeps your side of the street clean, no matter what's happening on theirs.
Key Topics Covered:
“Mediation oftentimes is the right way to do it. Even if you don't get exactly what you want, it does help you move on to the next chapter quicker.” - Sol Kennedy
About Our Guest: Sol Kennedy
Sol Kennedy is the founder of BestInterest, the AI-powered co-parenting app hailed by WIRED as a "lifesaving" solution for high-conflict families. A former Googler and serial entrepreneur, Sol built the app by pairing hard-won lessons from his own divorce with technology designed to shift parents from reactive to responsive communication. Working alongside experts like Dr. Ramani Durvasula, he's brought real credibility to the science behind the tools. The result: safety, sanity, and a clear focus on what matters most—the kids.
Who This Episode Is For:
Connect with Sol Kennedy:
Website: https://bestinterest.app
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestinterest.app
Connect with Ksenia Muench:
Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/
Website: https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvmuench/
Substack: https://substack.com/@thriveagaindc
Email: [email protected]
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In this episode, I’m joined by Ron Platt, a lifelong entrepreneur with over 35 years of experience in insurance, real estate, and social advocacy. His work as a foster parent and family advocate inspired him to create NASDF (National Association for Single and Divorced Families) and develop Support Insured—a divorce insurance product designed to protect families when child support or alimony payments are disrupted.
Today’s episode is essential for anyone navigating divorce or raising children as a single parent. We explore resources designed to alleviate financial uncertainty during major life transitions, breaking down what Ron created, why it matters, and how it helps families stay informed and protected.
Key Topics Covered:
“We wanted to create an insurance product that fills that gap, that would continue making those payments for up to a year if the person died, became temporarily disabled, experienced involuntary unemployment, or declared business bankruptcy.” - Ron Platt
About Our Guest: Ron Platt
Ron Platt is a lifelong entrepreneur with over 35 years of experience in insurance, real estate, and social advocacy. Driven by his personal experience as a foster parent and family advocate, Ron created NASDF to reform systems that fail single-parent and divorced households. He also launched Support Insured, the only divorce insurance product on the market guaranteeing up to one year of child support and alimony payments if the payor dies, becomes disabled, loses their job, or declares bankruptcy.
Who This Episode Is For:
Connect with Ron Platt:
Website: www.nasdf.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NASDF.org
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nasdforg/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronald-platt-a6b49016/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NASDForg
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nasdf.org
Connect with Ksenia Muench:
Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/
Website: https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvmuench/
Substack: https://substack.com/@thriveagaindc
Email: [email protected]
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On this episode of Uncoupled and Unfiltered, I’m joined by Tara Eisenhard—a divorce coach, co-parenting specialist, and family mediator with over a decade of experience helping individuals and families navigate difficult life transitions.
What makes Tara’s work unique is her trauma-informed approach, recognizing that conflict on the surface often comes from something deeper underneath.
In this episode, we explore divorce as a possible solution—without glamorizing it—along with what healthy co-parenting really looks like and why being good co-parents doesn’t necessarily mean being friends.
Can a marriage end without being a failure? What does effective co-parenting look like? And how do you move forward when the life you planned no longer fits?
Sounds interesting? Tune in.
Key Topics Covered:
“The path that leads to peace and productivity is vastly different for every family.” - Tara Eisenhard
About Our Guest: Tara Eisenhard
Tara Eisenhard is a divorce coach, co-parenting specialist, and family mediator with over a decade of experience helping individuals and families navigate life’s most challenging transitions. With advanced training in divorce and co-parenting dynamics and a trauma-informed approach, she supports clients in creating healthier communication patterns, developing sustainable parenting plans, and moving forward with clarity and confidence. Tara is known for her compassionate, practical style, empowering clients to shift from conflict to collaboration and build a strong foundation for their next chapter.
Who This Episode Is For:
Connect with Tara Eisenhard:
Website: https://taraeisenhard.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/author.taraeisenhard
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taraeisenhard
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taraeisenhard/
Connect with Ksenia Muench:
Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/
Website: https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvmuench/
Substack: https://substack.com/@thriveagaindc
Email: [email protected]
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Follow Uncoupled and Unfiltered on Spotify, Prime, and Apple Podcasts for weekly conversations about divorce, relationships, dating, and self-discovery. If this episode resonated, please rate, review, and share to help others find the show.
Want to work with Ksenia? The next cohort is forming now- https://www.highconflictplaybook.com/
From the publisher's feed
Divorce isn’t polite, and this podcast isn’t either. Uncoupled & Unfiltered is where strong, self-sufficient adults come to get real about divorce—before, during, and after the papers…
If you’re dealing with a litigated divorce and trying to keep it fair, focused, and drama-free, this podcast is your new go-to. You’ll hear from legal pros, therapists, financial experts, and real people in the thick of it. Ksenia also drops unfiltered solo episodes full of straight talk, hard-earned lessons, and a healthy dose of tough love.
Divorce sucks. But you don’t. Let’s get through this with clarity, grit, and a little humor—because thriving after divorce is the real flex.