Untold numbers of people across North America have been caught up in the wake of the opioid crisis - loved ones lost, lives interrupted, cities overrun with addicts. This tableau has unfolded in countless cities, against the faraway backdrop of an underworld drug empire that terrorizes the people of Mexico. Author Sam Quinones has spent the last decade of his life on both sides of the border, reporting from the front lines. He's traced the origin of the crisis, detailed the toll it took on the government of Mexico, the people living there, and how unlimited quantities magic pain pills erased an entire generation, with no regard for social or class lines. What makes this conversation unique is that, despite the darkness he's seen, Quinones has finally found a glimmer of hope among the wreckage. We talk destruction, absolution, and rebirth. We talk of the drug wars, of the way that wall street colluded to make the crisis, and how we all played a role. But more than that, we talk about the way that we can pull ourselves out of this mess, by taking a lesson from the cities where the crisis really started.