This week on the podcast, Izzy and Murtada welcome Manuel Betancourt, film critic and author of “The Male Gazed.” This book of essays helps us reframe how we talk about desiring men through deep dives into thirst traps, drag queens, Antonio Banderas, telenovelas, and more. The trio explores Betancourt’s guiding question for the book—do I want him or do I want to be him?—while thinking through the conflicting feelings of shame and attraction in queer desire.

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