Fr. Sam and Matt had the great pleasure of sitting down Tess Livingstone, a personal friend of Cardinal Pell and the author of George Cardinal Pell: Pax Invictus, A Biography.

They cover quite a bit including: Cardinal Pell's childhood, vocation story, seminary reforms, time as archbishop, the false accusations, convictions, solitary confinement in prison, the Demos memo addressed to the Pope, and Cardinal Pell's work as the Secretariat of the Economy. 

There's a lot here, but it's well worth the listen! 

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