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"This is the most important election of our lifetimes." "Voting for a third-party candidate? Might as well throw away your vote!" "You may not like him, but you've just got to hold your nose and vote for him — otherwise, Trump might win."

We're sure you've heard each of these lines many times — we know that we have. But, at some point you have to ask: how can every election be the most important one? Am I really throwing away my vote by voting for a candidate whose policies I agree with? Can we ever actually affect change if we're always voting for the "lesser evil" candidate or party? Isn't that just a race to the bottom — or, as we're seeing currently, a race towards genocide?

Well, in this conversation, we're going to tackle all of those questions — and much more — with our guest, August Nimtz, Professor of political science and African American and African studies in the College of Liberal Arts at the University of Minnesota. Professor Nimtz is the author of The Ballot, The Streets, Or Both? published by Haymarket Books.

In this conversation, Professor Nimtz explores the question of electoralism as it relates to revolutionary left politics through a deep dive into the history of the Russian Revolution — examining how Marx, Engels, and Lenin approached electoralism and then applying their analyses and viewpoints to today's situation.

What is the role of elections for the revolutionary left? How can we engage with electoralism without falling into what Professor Nimtz refers to as "electoral fetishism"? What about the "lesser evil" or "spoiler" phenomenon? How can we build a party for the working and oppressed classes without falling prey to opportunism or bourgeois distraction? What can we learn from the European Revolutions of 1848, the Paris Commune, the Russian Revolution, and other historic attempts at revolution — both successful and unsuccessful? These are just some of the questions and themes we explore in this episode with Professor Nimtz.

Thank you to Bethan Mure for this episode's cover art and to Noname for the intermission music. Upstream theme music was composed by Robert Raymond/Lanterns.

Further Resources:

• The Ballot, The Streets, or Both?
• Upstream: What Is To Be Done? with Breht O'Shea and Alyson Escalante
• Guerrilla History: Electoral Theory and Strategy of Marx and Lenin w/ August Nimtz

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As we continue to work towards outer transformation, building the structures and models that will shape the transition to a post-capitalist society, it's also important to think about the inner transitions within ourselves — particularly, how we relate to one another personally and socially.

How we show up together for a liberated future is the core theme of the book How We Show Up: Reclaiming Family, Friendship, and Community, written by our guest in this episode, Mia Birdsong. Mia is the Executive Director of the Next River Institute and the host of the More than Enough podcast miniseries. In How We Show Up, Mia shares how we have separated from one another despite our deep desire for belonging. She explores how we can instead turn towards one another, remembering our inherent interconnectedness, and how we can find connection and support in vulnerability and generosity.

In this conversation we explore how capitalism has undermined our ability to create and sustain healthy communities, what it really means to show up for someone, how to set boundaries and hold each other accountable without bosses or policing, what a healthy interconnected community feels like, and how to cultivate a sense of collective vitality that embodies the liberated future we want right now

Further Resources:

• Mia Birdsong
• Next River Intstitute
• More Than Enough
• Freedom's Revival: A Field Guide

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Before 1948, the land of Palestine was dotted with olive groves along rolling hills between mountains and the Mediterranean sea. Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, Jews, and Christians all lived alongside one another in relative harmony, practicing agriculture and embroidery, or working in factories or along the coast in thriving port villages. Not to romanticize it too much, but in comparison to what was to come, this region was thriving.

If you've been paying any attention to the news lately, you'll know that an image of harmony is no longer the case in this region. In 1948, the state of Israel was founded, and the campaign leading up to, during, and following the founding of this ethno-state threw this region into a turmoil that has produced one of the most subjugated and immiserated populations in the world — a population that has been subjected to ongoing ethnic cleansing and a campaign of genocide aimed at replacing Palestinians and their towns, villages, and cities, with Israeli settlements.

In this episode, we've brought on Sumaya Awad, a Palestinian writer, analyst, and socialist organizer, to talk about this history, drawing a line from the Nakba of 1948 all the way to the present carpet bombing campaign on Gaza. Sumaya is a contributor to and co-editor, along with brian bean, of Palestine: A Socialist Perspective, published by Haymarket Books.In this conversation we explore the history of the political ideology of Zionism, how imperialism and colonialism shaped the state of Israel, the ethnic cleansing campaign known to Palestinians as the Nakba, the global propaganda campaign, led by Israel, aimed at covering up this history, the West's complicity in war crimes and genocide, what a principled socialist perspective on Palestine looks like, and much more. In fact, there's so much from Palestine: A Socialist Perspective that we didn't get to, that we're going to have Sumaya back on for a part two soon.

Further Resources:

• Palestine: A Socialist Introduction
• Donate to Middle Eastern Children's Alliance (MECA)
• Anera: Provide urgent humanitarian aid to Palestinians
• Write your member of Congress to demand an immediate ceasefire
• Against Canary Mission

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What Is To Be Done? This is the question so profoundly posed by the Russian Revolutionary and Bolshevik leader, Vladimir Lenin, in his landmark text of the same name. Although it was written well over a century ago, this text, the questions it asked, and the paths forward that it provided, are just as relevant today as they were a hundred years ago. And just as urgent.

What roles do spontaneity and disciplined organization have in leftist movements? Can we focus simply on economic reform, or do our actions need a larger political framework to structure, guide, and propel them?

Why does it feel like even though so many of us are motivated to work towards structural change, that things continue to get worse? Why does it seem like potential revolutionary struggles in the West always seem to stall and fail to move from a singular moment to a protracted movement?

These are old and familiar questions — a lot of ink has been spilled and speeches made exploring them — and in this Conversation, we've brought on two guests who've not only thought about these questions in depth, but who have some pretty compelling answers that draw from revolutionary theory and practice in both their personal lives and from the deep well of wisdom bequeathed by theorists Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Mao.

Breht O'Shea is the host of the podcast Revolutionary Left Radio and a co-host of Guerrilla History. He's been on the show multiple times so you may already be familiar with his voice. Alyson Escalate, who has also been on the show, is the co-host, along with Breht, of Red Menace, a podcast that explains and analyzes revolutionary theory and then applies its lessons to our contemporary conditions.

Further Resources:

• Red Menace – What Is To Be Done? - V.I. Lenin
• Revolutionary Left Radio – Politics in Command: Analyzing the Error of Economism
• Red Menace – The Wretched of the Earth - Frantz Fanon: On Violence and Spontaneity
• Red Menace – Understanding Settler Colonialism in Israel and the United States
• Revolutionary Left Radio on Instagram
• Upstream – Buddhism and Marxism with Breht O'Shea (In Conversation)
• Upstream – Trans Liberation and Solidarity with Alyson Escalante (In Conversation)
• Upstream – Revolutionary Leftism with Breht O'Shea (In Conversation)

This episode of Upstream was made possible with support from listeners like you. Upstream is a labor of love — we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/upstreampodcast or please consider chipping in a one-time or recurring donation at www.upstreampodcast.org/support

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What is the connection between capitalism, colonialism, consumerism, and Christianity? How do these systems and ideologies uphold and support one another? How do we work to dismantle them and cultivate in their place a decolonized culture and politics that supports Indigenous sovereignty, human health and wellbeing, and flourishing ecosystems? These are some of the questions that we'll explore today on this special Indigenous People's Day conversation with Sikowis Nobiss.

Sikowis is Plains Cree/Saulteaux of the George Gordon First Nation in Saskatchewan, Canada At 19 she began her life's work of uplifting Indigenous rights and voices when she got her first job at the New Brunswick Aboriginal Peoples Council in Fredericton, Canada, during the Burnt Church Rebellion. Between 2010 and 2015, Sikowis attempted to work with various Indigenous folks in Iowa City to build a climate and environment organization but was unsuccessful. However, her goal to found such an organization became a reality in 2016 when she joined the fight against the Dakota Access Pipeline. This led her to co-found Little Creek Camp in February 2017, which has since transformed into Great Plains Action Society, a fully Indigenous-led organization where Sikowis works at a grassroots level to dismantle corrupt colonial-capitalist systems and rebuild them with a decolonized worldview.

Thank you to Soni López-Chávez (of Chichimeca heritage) for this episode's cover art and to Black Belt Eagle Scout for the intermission music. Upstream theme music was composed by Robert Raymond/Lanterns.

Further Resources:

• Great Plains Action Society
• The Righteous Gemstones
• Upstream Podcast documentary: Our Struggles are Your Struggles: Stories of Indigenous Resistance and Regeneration

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Although the reference to war that you just heard could very much be real, actual military conflict — after all, our guest on today's episode has fought as a freedom fighter in a Kurdish militia in Syria — today's episode isn't about that. It's about a different kind of war: class war. Specifically, class conflict as it manifests in the workplace between employees and employers.

You may already know about Anchor Brewery — maybe you love the beer, maybe you've seen the iconic steam beer bottle around, or maybe you don't know anything about it. Whatever your relationship to Anchor Brewery — you're about to hear a story that stretches from early San Francisco union history, to the dawn of the craft beer renaissance, and into the present. A story about class war and worker solidarity in the beer industry.

You might also have heard about Anchor Brewery's unionization campaign that took place in 2019 after this locally beloved brewery was bought by a giant beer conglomerate, Sapporo. That unionization campaign was successful, but recently, Sapporo abruptly, and controversially, closed Anchor Brewing down. Now, some of the workers at Anchor who don't want to see this centuries-old institution stripped for parts, want to turn the brewery into a worker-owned cooperative.

This is really a sort of David and Goliath story, and to tell it, we've brought on Brace Belden, who was an integral part of the union campaign back in 2019. Brace is the co-host of the podcast TrueAnon and a long-time San Franciscan who has worked, in many capacities, within the labor movement. In this episode he tells us the story of the unionization campaign at Anchor — giving us a sort of 'how to start a union' 101 crash course. We also explore the struggles with Sapporo, the effort to convert Anchor into a worker cooperative, and also, how local Bay Area beer producers and enjoyers are coming together in an act of true solidarity to stand behind the workers that have been the backbone of this historic brewery.

Thank you to Carolyn Raider for this episode's cover art and to Gopal Maurya for the intermission music. Upstream theme music was composed by Robert Raymond/Lanterns.

Further Resources:

• Help Workers Save Anchor Brewing (Gofundme)
• Anchor Union SF's Instagram
• International Longshore and Warehouse Union
• FoundSF
• Fingers
• TrueAnon
• The Response: Labor Battles and the Beer Industry with Pedro Mancilla
• Chapo Trap House — 288 - So You Want To Start A Union feat. Brace Belden (2/10/19)

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It was once very difficult for people experiencing poverty in the Global South to obtain credit and loans because they were seen as unable to provide adequate collateral. This situation changed with the emergence of microfinance, a model pioneered by Muhammad Yunus and the Grameen Bank in Bangladesh which has now been widely disseminated to countries around the world.

At the heart of the Grameen system is the organization of borrowers into groups of women (97 percent of the bank's loans are to women) where collateral is each woman's social connections and reputation. This model is touted for contributing to Women's Empowerment and for "rising people out of poverty" and even won a Nobel Peace Prize in 2006.

But does this model actually empower women? Does it address the structural causes of poverty? Or is it just another frontier for capitalism — a new way of profiting off of the most marginalized, exploiting the trust and social cohesion among groups of women, and even triggering what's been described as "India's micro-finance suicide epidemic"?

To answer these questions, we've invited on Dr. Sohini Kar, a socio-cultural anthropologist at the London School of Economics who focuses on the economic anthropology of South Asia, particularly in urban India. She is also the author of Financializing Poverty: Labor and Risk in Indian Microfinance.

In this conversation, Dr. Kar breaks down what microfinance is and how it's hurting women in India and beyond, she shares stories of the experiences women in India have had with microcredit programs, she connects microlending in India with predatory payday lending in the United States as part of capitalism's financialization of poverty, and finally, she offers truly transformative and empowering financial pathways for both investors and purchasers alike.

Thank you to Carolyn Raider for this episode's cover art and to Gopal Maurya for the intermission music. Upstream theme music was composed by Robert Raymond/Lanterns.

Further Resources:

• Dr. Sohini Kar at LSE
• Dr. Sohini Kar
• Subprime Empire: On the In-Betweenness of Finance, The University of Chicago Press Journals

This episode of Upstream was made possible with support from listeners like you. Upstream is a labor of love — we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Please consider chipping in a one-time or recurring donation at www.upstreampodcast.org/support

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"It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism." Those words have been attributed to both the philosophers Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek decades ago, but they couldn't feel more true today. As we continue to stare down the double barrels of climate change and COVID without any meaningful response from those who rule over us, without organized and collective action that has been able to make a transformative material impact, and for many out there without even really fully absorbing the reality staring us in the face…yeah. , it certainly seems like it's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of this horrifying social order.

This phenomenon, which was so aptly distilled into a bite-sized quote by Jameson and Žižek, has come to be known as capitalist realism — a concept popularized by the late Mark Fisher in a book of the same name written in 2008. In Capitalist Realism, Fisher, an author and educator, explains in eighty pages, just how deeply capitalism has permeated our worlds, how totalizing its hegemony has become in the 21st century, how broadly it has flattened not just our institutions but our interactions, our experiences, our emotions, our traumas — how the commodification of everything has enveloped us all in this era we know as neoliberal capitalism.

To discuss Capitalist Realism, the book and the concept, we've brought on Carlee, co-host of Hit Factory, a podcast about the films and politics of the 1990s. Carlee's immersion in film and media, and her deep understanding of how capitalist realism exists in the realm of culture, gives this conversation a wide-ranging scope spanning from music to film to labor struggles to mental health — and much more. Carlee is also a friend of the show, both Robert and I have been guests on Hit Factory in the past, so we couldn't be more excited to be continuing our collaboration with such a good comrade on such an exciting and rich topic.

Thank you to Carolyn Raider for this episode's cover art and to Chain and The Gang for the intermission music. Upstream theme music was composed by Robert Raymond/Lanterns.

Further Resources:

• Hit Factory on Patreon
• Hit Factory: The Matrix feat. Della Duncan
• Hit Factory: Slacker feat. Robert Raymond
• Hit Factory: The Matrix Resurrections feat. Aaron Thorpe
• What May Have Been, by Aaron Thorpe
• Revolutionary Left Radio: Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative?

This episode of Upstream was made possible with support from listeners like you. Upstream is a labor of love — we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Please consider chipping in a one-time or recurring donation at www.upstreampodcast.org/support

If your organization wants to sponsor one of our upcoming documentaries, we have a number of sponsorship packages available. Find out more at upstreampodcast.org/sponsorship

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Do you ever feel like time is marching in a particular direction? Towards, say, rising global temperatures, mass extinctions, ever-increasing divisions — and ultimately, towards inevitable collapse? What if this particular perception of time contributes to our feelings of despair and hopelessness about our futures? What if it limits our ability to imagine and fight for a more just, equitable, and regenerative system?

In this conversation, we've brought on Bay Area artist and author Jenny Odell to help us unpack and reimagine our experience of time and to foster hope and inspire action for a better future. We focus on insights and stories from Jenny's two books, her 2019 New York Times Bestseller How to do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy and most recently, Saving Time: Discovering Life Beyond the Clock.

In this conversation, we learn about the commodification and colonization of time under capitalism, how it happened, when it happened, and how the fungibility of time contributes to human and planetary suffering. We explore her unique reframe of classes to include those who time, those who are timed, and those who self-time. We also talk about a more ecological and place-based sense of time, a life beyond the clock, unbound from capitalism, that shows that neither our lives nor the life of our planet is a foregone conclusion, that we are not alone in our efforts to dismantle capitalism, and that the more-than-human world is actually an active participant in the endeavor — and here to help.

Thank you to Carolyn Raider for this episode's cover art and to Bowerbirds for the intermission music. Upstream theme music was composed by Robert Raymond/Lanterns.

Further Resources:

• Saving Time: Discovering Life Beyond the Clock, by Jenny Odell
• How to do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy, by Jenny Odell
• The Bureau of Suspended Objects
• Where Almost Everything I Used, Wore, Ate or Bought on Monday, April 1, 2013 (That Had a Label) Was Manufactured, to the Best of My Knowledge

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If your organization wants to sponsor one of our upcoming documentaries, we have a number of sponsorship packages available. Find out more at upstreampodcast.org/sponsorship

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When you think about the philosophies and practices of Buddhism and Marxism, you might not immediately think that they have much in common. However, you might be surprised at how much overlap and complementary resonance there actually is between these two rich and beautiful traditions.

In this conversation, we've brought on Breht O'Shea, a Buddhist practitioner and Marxist political educator based out of Omaha, Nebraska. Breht is the host of the podcast Revolutionary Left Radio and co-host of the podcasts Red Menace, Guerrilla History, and, most recently, Shoeless in South Dakota. You might remember Breht from when he was on the show about a year ago to talk about revolutionary leftist theory.

In this conversation, we explore how both Buddhism & Marxism offer helpful pathways to liberation and provide a spot-on analysis of the root causes of suffering. We also explore some of the potential tensions between Buddhism and Marxism, as well as what each tradition can learn from the other. And we end with a powerful invitation to embark on the path of the Bodhisattva Revolutionary to both end the internal and structural causes and conditions of suffering and to bring forth the systemic changes necessary for the transition to a socialist and eventually communist economy based on liberation, equity, and justice for all.

This interview was inspired by an episode of Revolutionary Left Radio titled Dialectics & Liberation: Insights from Buddhism and Marxism where Breht read a speech he gave at Arizona State University on the topic of dialectical materialism, Buddhism, and Marxism. Definitely check that episode out when you're done listening to this — it's a great complement to this conversation.

Thank you to Carolyn Raider for this episode's cover art and to Mount Eerie for the intermission music. Upstream theme music was composed by Robert Raymond/Lanterns.

Further Resources:

• Upstream: Revolutionary Leftism with Breht O'Shea (In Conversation)
• Dialectics & Liberation: Insights from Buddhism and Marxism, by Breht O'Shea on Revolutionary Left Radio
• Revolutionary Left Radio
• Red Menace
• Guerilla History
• Shoeless in South Dakota

This episode of Upstream was made possible with support from listeners like you. Upstream is a labor of love — we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Please consider chipping in a one-time or recurring donation at www.upstreampodcast.org/support

If your organization wants to sponsor one of our upcoming documentaries, we have a number of sponsorship packages available. Find out more at upstreampodcast.org/sponsorship

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