While headlines focus on the government shutdown, the real story is the $37 trillion U.S. debt and what it means for investors.

In this episode, Joe DeLisi, Senior Partner at WestPac Wealth Investments, explains how rising interest payments and persistent deficits affect market performance, tax policy, and long-term planning.

Tune in for Joe DeLisi's perspective on debt, taxes, and strategies to help protect portfolios in an uncertain fiscal future.