As Joe Biden insists all-out war in the Middle-East can be averted we analyse how, when so many people are dying by missiles fired across borders, it is possible still to say we are not already at that point. The Times' correspondent, Richard Spencer, joins the World in 10 from Tel Aviv to explain, and analyse the next moves of Israel and Iran which might, or might not, bring that all-out war to bear.

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