Cloud isn't just cloud. It's multi, hybrid, edge, and everything in between. The complexity can be mind-numbing. In this podcast, David Linthicum talks with RackN's Rob Hirschfeld about how companies can use infrastructure pipelines to better standardize and manage their infrastructure ecosystems—which can significantly reduce complexity. Rob's take is that automation is key, but it has to be standardized. Of course, infrastructure as code plays a critical role.