"I think words change the world, reader by reader."

Val McDermid joins us on this very special episode, talking with Guardian Books Online editor Sian Cain about her newly revealed International Literature Showcase selection of UK-based LGBTQI+ writers.

The International Literature Showcase is produced in partnership with the British Council. Find out more at https://nationalcentreforwriting.org.uk/ils/

Hosted by Simon Jones and Steph McKenna.

Music by Bennet Maples.