Today, Jay and Lee are joined by Val Shao, an absolute crusher at the crag who is also the organizer of the 30th annual International Climber’s Festival in Lander, WY. Learn all about this year’s International Climber’s Festival and what makes Lander an excellent climbing destination. Plus, hear Val’s take on the hot button debates that continue to rage on the podcast. 

Learn more about the International Climber’s Festival here: https://www.climbersfestival.org/

Connect with Val on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/val_shao/?hl=en

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Jay and Lee can be found at @jayknower and @xxleeweexx 

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The information expressed in this episode is for entertainment purposes only, and is not intended as, nor should it be interpreted as, informational or instructional.