Two meaty interviews on this episode.

First, we talk with Vallejo Gantner currently with ONX Studio an XR accelerator in New York City powered by Onassis Foundation USA (for whom he previously served as Artistic and Executive Director) and New INC. We get into the state of performing arts in XR with Gantner, who was the Artistic Director of NYC’s Performance Space 122 for 12 years. (Check out Tree currently at ONX Studio in NYC.)

Then we settle in for a chat with Scott Cramton of American Immersion Theater, talking about his twenty-year career in making participatory events for clients around the country, and take an unexpected detour into what he's put together over the course of the pandemic: Camp D&D Online. [39:00]

Plus Kathryn with this week's Headlines and the latest on The Next Stage Immersive Summit & Mini-Festival.

Associate Producer: Parker Sela

Music: Chris Porter 

Headlines: Kathryn Yu, Executive Editor of No Proscenium

Producer and Host: Noah Nelson 

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