Can you believe it? It's finally here – the season finale to season 1 of Very That! Arnold and Grey top off the season by turning it over to their devoted and chaotic listeners to answer some of their pressing questions to provide the HOLE truth and nothing but the truth. The questions cover the entire gamut, from the deep to the gross…just like your dad! The two discuss how coming together to create a space for vulnerability and community has become the podcast's pride and joy, along with having a dedicated space for people to come for them! Nothing is too personal, as they embrace the truth of their vulnerability to talk about their first times' awkwardness.  Arnold reveals his first time didn't go the way you'd imagine. Grey explains why he likes to go BOB in the bedroom. The discussion continues with a myriad of other questions: from favorite sex positions, finding the right therapist, along with some dating advice for Gen Zoomer. A big thank you to everyone who has supported season 1 – your support and shade have helped ensure each episode is more profound and grosser than the previous. We can't wait to get downright subterranean and disgusting for Season 2 as we explore a whole new set of experiences with old traumas; STAY TUNED! Until then, make sure you’re caught up on all 10 episodes & keep your notifications on so you don't miss any of the fun!

Arnold & Grey look back at their lives & continue to look inward as they examine what they’ve learned from the weighty topic of REGRET – luckily, they took their Boniva, so these shoulders are ready for the weight. Grey examines the pathology of the regret, noting its lack of density, in reality, makes it a toxic sentiment. Arnold has a bone to pick as he discusses his relationship with regret, revealing the regretful skeleton he’s kept hidden from his family for so long. While having opposing relationships with regret, calling out the shame in regret helps them to see that while holding regret isn’t healthy – perhaps there’s something to learn from it. Together, they diagnose that regret is just the lack of peace from our decisions & experiences, and on this road to peace, regret needs to take a backseat … RIGHT NOW!

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Arnold & Grey take a moment to enjoy a mystical peregrination and call upon the ancestors for divine intervention to discuss SPIRITUALITY! Grey explains how accepting the world's chaos has enabled him to better understand true peace & harmony… along with the Colonial-British penal code. Arnold walks through how acknowledging the persecution embedded in his own heritage helps him gain more comfort and freedom; because Saweetie isn't the only one who knows how to TAP IN! Oppression and transcendence mark their spiritual journeys' duality, as they discuss how their reuniting with the ways of the ancients has redefined their understanding of the metaphysical. Together, they surrender to the notion that true spirituality starts with a connection to oneself and embracing the honesty of the universe…PERIODT!

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Arnold and Grey deviate from the current reality's rigor to discuss every Oprah fan's favorite topic: MANIFESTATION! Whether it's getting some strange on Grindr, getting a new job, or starting a podcast – the two walk through their various experiences with manifestation and cultivating their own realities. Grey walks through how adopting Nietzche's Camel-mindset allowed him to get over his own humps to manifest his dream role – whether in the boardroom or bedroom. Arnold explains how the movie 'The Craft' & the natural order of the elements provide the perfect rubric for manifestation, enabling him to tap into his real power to become the Avatar of his own space. "Following that D" takes on a new meaning as the two discuss following their Dao & to discover that it's not about timing but intention. Whether you feel like a Fairuza Balk or Rachael True – your emotions and energies are always materializing the world around you and your experience. So you better embrace that "D" if you want to become Robin Tunney…AND THAT'S REAL POWER!

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Arnold & Grey go back to quarantine & bare it all on how isolation has caused them to face their worst demons: THEMSELVES! The duo keeps it as effervescent as a BACKWOOD, discussing how time alone in quarantine is forcing them to learn how to rely back on themselves and understand what the stories they tell themselves are really saying about who they are. Arnold talks about how upgrading his emotional-programing to be less codependent has given his life a reboot and enabled him to realize HER real power. Grey comes up with a working title for the next great outdoor-circuit party while also uncovering that true peace comes from learning trust yourself and embracing the awkwardness of vulnerability. The discussion reveals that while there's comfort in the pain you know, there's also liberation to be gained by embracing vulnerability…as well as trucker porn.

Arnold and Grey try to take the tone down a notch and in ASMR's tone to talk about everyone's favorite topic: QUARANTINE! They talk about the good, the bad, the ugly, and, more importantly, THE SHAMEFUL moments they've encountered during Quarantine. Arnold dives into the emotional rollercoaster he's been on facing his demons and loneliness - filled with highs, lows, and obscure movie references. Grey shares how dedicating more time to learning to enjoy his own company helps him recognize that the glass is half full...don't ask about the other half. Together, they hope that they can leverage Quarantine's space and time to come out the other side as better people. WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE.. right...maybe?   

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Arnold and Grey take a step back and talk about the idea boundaries in relationships and why they're essential to your sanity and self-preservation. Arnold explains how understanding his emotional needs in the now is helping him to reclaim his time and establish his boundaries for the future. Grey breaks down the challenges he's experienced in trying to develop & understand his boundaries after growing up in a culture that didn't value the self. Together they realize boundaries aren't barriers that keep people out, but instead a means to loving deeper...STARTING WITH YOURSELF! RIP Cupcake the Guinea Pig!

Arnold and Grey discuss body image, reveal you have to get a little bawdy to understand your body. They spare no detail about their own views on body image and its impact on themselves and the world around them. Grey lays it on heavy about the limits he felt around his weight and how he trimmed the fat to discover that there is no weight limit to beauty. Arnold dives deep into how understanding his own framework & body got him to be more comfortable with how his slender frame werks! At the end of the day - AINT NOBODY LOVE YO BODY BETTER THAN YOU! 

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Arnold and Grey chat about the road to therapy - leaving out no detail about the pitstops along the way, and how the journey doesnt stop after you've reached your destination. Grey talks about feeling his oats, and reveals how he got the recipe. Arnold talks about learning how to get back in the driver's seat of his emotions, or at the very least how to enjoy the ride. ARE WE THERE YET?  

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Join Grey and Arnold to get a glimpse of their world of delusional banter. In this episode, they give an intimate look at what makes them tick, maybe more intimate than you are comfortable with...