Vijaya Ramachandran, a native of Bangalore, India, has been studying and writing about energy and development for more than three decades. In this episode, she discusses the “rank hypocrisy” and “green colonialism” of the rich countries who have said they will quit financing hydrocarbon projects in the developing world, why Africa must develop its vast natural gas resources, how coal is “embedded” in India’s economy, and why “If we just address climate change and ignore poverty, that is completely immoral.”