Now that she's left Newsnight after a 30 year career, in this classic episode from the NMF archive, Cally talks to broadcaster and writer Kirsty Wark about Margaret Thatcher, Vivienne Westwood, the island of Arran, pregnancy, wild weeing, sleeper trains, snoring, fears, shopping, empty nest, menopause, novel writing, love language, cocktails, female role models and the Queen’s funeral.

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Kirsty’s books

Fortunately podcast with Kirsty as guest

La Fetiche clothing

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Produced by Mike Hanson for Pod People Productions

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Music by Jake Yapp

Cover art by Jaijo

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