You might know Anna Sale as the host of Slate’s podcast Death, Sex, and Money, which digs deep into topics that a lot of people would rather avoid. If you attended Camp Alleghany in West Virginia, you might know Anna as one of the many campers, spending idyllic summer days and nights having wholesome fun in the great outdoors. At the request of our listener Beth, who wanted to hear Anna’s voice on our show, Anna fills us in on all the warm camaraderie as well as the good-natured fierce competition that factor so heavily into the summer camp experience. Host John Moe, who met his wife while working at a summer camp, even helps Anna recall one of her favorite camp songs.

Hey Sleepy Heads, is there anyone whose voice you’d like to drift off to, or do you have suggestions on things we could do to aid your slumber? 

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