I wanted to call this episode, "What is a good mum?", as it's where Mel and I land in our conversation. But more appropriately titled out of the heart of our conversation, "We are sinful mums". What a tagline hey. Not really what we want to be known for. But we are. 

This episode, Mel shares her journey with motherhood. We both consider how motherhood was the catalyst to seeing our total depravity as humans. 

Mel's aim in life was to be a great mum - it's what she desperately longed for and wanted to be. When faced with her lack of control and the harness that is being a mum, she was grieved by the anger and frustration and lack of ability that she could see so clearly. There is real grief when we cannot be who we thought we could be, or want to be. 

We then consider how great God is - how loving, how merciful and gracious he is to us to consider our sin no more. 

It's a really helpful, and honest, conversation about sin and the grief and guilt it bares in our life. I'm so thankful for Mel and her honesty, vulnerability and practical advice in this episode.