What starts as a casual life update somehow turns into a full-blown squirrel interrogation… and honestly, we wouldn’t have it any other way.

In this episode, the girls catch up on everything from new jobs, school, motherhood, mental health, divorce, healing, and navigating huge life transitions — all while somehow spiraling into conversations about Emperor’s New Groove, random useless knowledge, Utah culture, car stickers, PowerPoint nights, and a rogue squirrel living in Terin’s garage.

Yes. An actual squirrel.
Yes. It may or may not have committed property damage.
Yes. There was an interrogation.

This episode is chaotic in the best way and feels exactly like sitting in a room with your funniest friends while everyone collectively tries to survive adulthood. Underneath the humor, though, is a really honest conversation about growth, rebuilding your life, learning to stop protecting people who hurt you, and realizing that sometimes nobody is coming to save you — so you save yourself instead.

Also discussed:

• Terin’s new job with DCFS
• Grad school + internship chaos
• Why nobody actually knows what they’re doing
• The emotional aftermath of major life changes
• The weird comfort of community and “finding your people”
• Random facts we absolutely did not need to know
• Whether squirrels and chipmunks are the same thing
• And why Emperor’s New Groove might be the greatest movie ever made

Honestly? This episode is unhinged, heartfelt, and somehow deeply therapeutic all at once.

Love you so much. 🐿️✨

If Episode 6 was the breaking point… this is what came after.

In Part 2 of this life update, Terin continues the conversation and shares what it’s actually looked like in the days and weeks after the 48-hour move. The adrenaline has worn off, the dust is settling, and now comes the reality of rebuilding—emotionally, mentally, and logistically.

She opens up about the aftermath of letting go of control in co-parenting, what boundaries look like now, and how it feels to no longer center her decisions around keeping the peace. There’s grief, there’s relief, and there’s a whole lot of clarity.

This episode dives into:

• What happens after you choose yourself
• The emotional comedown from survival mode
• Navigating co-parenting with firmer boundaries
• Rebuilding stability for you and your kids
• The difference between peacekeeping and actual peace
• Trusting yourself after making hard decisions

This is the part no one talks about—the quiet, in-between space where you’re no longer in chaos… but not fully settled yet either.

And maybe the most important realization:
Peace doesn’t come from controlling the situation.
It comes from no longer abandoning yourself inside of it. 💛

This episode is a life update… and a big one.

Terin sits down and opens up about the whirlwind of events that unfolded in her life—events so intense and unexpected that they led to packing up and moving within 48 hours. From navigating the impact of her ex-husband’s instability and manic behaviors to making rapid, high-stakes decisions for her safety and her kids, this episode pulls back the curtain on what it really looks like when life forces you to pivot—fast.

But this isn’t just about what happened. It’s about what shifted.

Terin shares what it took to finally release the pressure of “playing nice” in co-parenting, the emotional toll of trying to control an uncontrollable situation, and the moment she realized that protecting her peace—and her children—meant letting go of the narrative she had been trying to hold together.

We talk about:

• What it’s like navigating co-parenting with instability
• The breaking point that led to a 48-hour move
• Letting go of control and the illusion of “keeping things calm”
• The cost of over-accommodating vs. choosing yourself
• Redefining what “doing what’s best for the kids” actually means
• Finding clarity in chaos

This episode is raw, honest, and deeply empowering for anyone who’s ever felt stuck trying to manage someone else’s behavior just to keep the peace.

Sometimes the most loving thing you can do—for yourself and your children—is stop shrinking, stop over-functioning… and walk away from the chaos. 💛

This episode is a special one.

We’re sitting down with Terin’s teenagers—Kaidence and Porter—for an honest, unfiltered conversation about what it’s really like to grow up in the middle of divorce.

From the outside, divorce is an adult decision… but this episode reminds us just how deeply it impacts the kids living it.

Kaidence and Porter open up about their experiences—from the moment they were told their parents were divorcing, to witnessing conflict, navigating loyalty, and learning how to cope with emotions that felt way too big for their age. They share what it felt like to be in the middle, the confusion of hearing different narratives, and the pressure (spoken or unspoken) to take sides. 

We talk about:

• What kids actually feel during a divorce (that adults might miss)

• Being the “messenger” between parents

• Trauma responses like freezing, anxiety, and emotional shutdown

• The guilt of feeling responsible for your parents’ emotions

• Learning how to set boundaries—even as a kid

• How their perspectives changed over time

They also share powerful advice for other kids going through divorce—including the reminder that it is not your job to fix it. 

And in true podcast fashion, we balance the heavy with the light—getting to know their personalities, talents, and even testing our slang knowledge (spoiler: we fail).

This episode is honest, eye-opening, and deeply important—for parents, for kids, and for anyone who’s ever been caught in the middle.

Most of all, it’s a reminder:
Kids see more than we think.
They feel more than we realize.
And they deserve to be heard. 💛

Part 2 with Sav is raw, honest, healing… and unexpectedly hilarious (because somehow we always end up there).

⚠️ Trigger Warning / Content Advisory:
This episode includes discussion of emotional abuse, domestic violence, suicidal thoughts, and postpartum mental health struggles. Please listen with care and feel free to pause or skip as needed. If you’re struggling, support is available—U.S. listeners can call or text 988.

In this continuation of Sav’s story, we pick up after baby arrives and follow her through the whirlwind of young motherhood, working multiple jobs, postpartum depression, and trying to prove—to everyone—that she could do it all. She opens up about the early red flags in her first marriage, the isolation, the manipulation, and the moment she realized she wasn’t just unhappy… she wasn’t safe.

Sav shares what it was like navigating emotional abuse, reactive abuse, financial control, and the psychological toll of constantly feeling unseen. She talks about the final breaking point, the courage it took to pack up and leave, and the long drive home that changed everything.

From there, we move into healing—what it looked like to start over, to sit in the absence of chaos, and to learn how to feel safe in a healthy relationship. She opens up about rebuilding her sense of self, learning to trust again, and the powerful moment her son asked Corden to adopt him.

We also talk about:

• The difference between chaos and love

• What healthy partnership actually looks like

• Trauma resurfacing when you finally feel safe

• The growth that comes after survival mode

• And how to recognize the difference between red flags and real connection

⚠️ Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault, teen pregnancy, and intimate partner dynamics. Listener discretion is advised. Please take care of yourself while listening.

🎙️ Season 3, Episode 3 (Part 1): “Growing Up Fast: Sav Farris on Motherhood, Survival, and Strength” 🌱❤️

In Part 1 of this powerful two-part conversation, we sit down with Sav Farris to talk about her life journey and the realities of becoming a mother as a teenager. Sav opens up about navigating pregnancy at a young age, the complexities of her relationship with her child’s biological father, and the emotional weight of stepping into single motherhood. She also bravely shares her experience of sexual assault and what it has taken to survive, process, and continue moving forward. This episode holds both the pain and the resilience—honoring the trials, the growth, and the quiet strength it takes to rebuild yourself while raising a child.

Anger gets a bad reputation—but what if it’s actually trying to tell us something important? In this episode, we dig into anger as a valid, necessary emotion and unpack how our childhood experiences shaped the way we were (or weren’t) allowed to express it. We talk about emotional safety, self-betrayal, and how suppressing anger can quietly wreak havoc on our mental health and relationships. From parenting and apologies to validation, communication, and therapy insights, this conversation is about learning to feel anger without becoming it—and teaching our kids to do the same. Honest, reflective, and deeply grounding, this episode invites you to stop fearing anger and start listening to it.

🎙️ Season 3, Episode 1: “Christmas, Grief, and Finding Our Way Forward” 🎄🐾✨

⚠️ Trigger Warning / Content Advisory

**This episode includes discussions of death, suicide, and grief. These topics may be distressing for some listeners. Please take care of yourself while listening and feel free to pause, skip, or step away at any time. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you love is struggling, you are not alone, and support is available.**

If you or someone you know is struggling, help is available:

📞 U.S. Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: 988 — Call or text anytime, 24/7.

You can also visit https://988lifeline.org/ for online chat support and additional resources.

You are not alone, and reaching out for help is a strong and brave step. ❤️

We're back for Season 3, and we’re starting with a conversation that’s equal parts lighthearted and deeply real. In this episode, we ease in with some unusual questions before unpacking the chaos, joy, and complicated emotions that came with Christmas—family dynamics, holiday traditions, and navigating things like Santa with our kids. We talk about the excitement of welcoming a new puppy, alongside the heavier weight of grief, loss, and moments that left us questioning our worth and direction. Through humor, honesty, and reflection, we explore the importance of support systems, personal growth, and setting intentions as we head into a new year. This episode is about holding both the hard and the hopeful—and choosing to keep moving forward.

n part two of this deeply personal series, Terin and James pick up where they left off—diving into the healing that comes after the hard conversations. Together, they explore what forgiveness really looks like, how co-parenting has evolved, and the challenges (and unexpected joys) of sharing a household post-divorce. With honesty, vulnerability, and a touch of humor, they reflect on what it means to rebuild trust, create peace, and parent from a place of mutual respect.

The episode wraps with a rapid-fire round that shows just how far they’ve come—proof that healing doesn’t erase the past, but transforms how we carry it.

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🎙️ Divorce, Growth, and Everything In Between Pt.1 (Ft. Terin's ex-husband James)💔➡️🌱

In this deeply honest and transformative episode, Jessie, Breea and Terin sit down with Terin's ex-husband, James, for a raw and heartfelt conversation about life after divorce, co-parenting, and personal evolution. James opens up about his challenging childhood, the impact of family trauma, and the experiences that shaped his early beliefs about love, responsibility, and fatherhood. In this two-part series, they reflect on the painful but powerful process of unlearning old patterns, navigating ego death, and finding healing through self-awareness.

From the chaos of their early co-parenting days to the peace they’re building now, this conversation is proof that growth can come from the hardest places—and that compassion and communication can transform everything.

#WeKnowThingsPodcast #DivorceAndGrowth #HealingJourney #CoParenting #Transformation #Fatherhood #SelfDiscovery #Vulnerability #PersonalGrowth