On last week’s episode, I talked with comedian Tim Murray, co-star of the new show Wish You Were Queer, alongside Michael Henry and Trixie Mattel. This week, we’re going behind the scenes to chat with the show’s producer, Frank Spadafora. Frank’s a former theater kid who realized that his real talent lay in wrangling his weird queer friends into making zany projects — sort of like Kermit the Frog, but very very gay.

We’ll have that conversation in just a minute. First — if you’re enjoying The Sewers of Paris, I hope you’ll consider supporting the show on Patreon. You may also enjoy my YouTube videos about the making of iconic movies and TV shows — I just posted a new video about the twenty-year anniversary of Brokeback Mountain, and I’ve got a new one coming soon about the movie But I’m a Cheerleader. And check out my weekly livestreams on Twitch, my book Hi Honey, I’m Homo!, and my free email newsletter full of stories about the making of gay entertainment. There’s links to all that in the episode shownotes, and at MattBaume.com.