On this week's show: we’re really excited to have Ross Douthat, columnist for The New York Times and host of the Times’s “Interesting Times” podcast, join us. We give the Epstein Files the Washington Read and make a sincere effort to learn something useful from this Epstein experience.

Plus: how Ross got his job as the official explainer of Trumpism to liberal America, why he wants us to pay more attention to AI, and Peter Thiel and his “over-indexing” on his Greta Thunberg theory of the Antichrist.

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