2025 was a blur for Jason and Miranda at Chiasson Smoke, but they're officially back behind the microphones. In Episode 11 of Beyond the Product, the crew sits down with Ryan Miller from PWI to talk about what it really takes to build and scale a fabrication business.

Ryan shares the story of growing PWI from a small family welding shop into a nationwide company with more than 200 employees. The conversation dives deep into leadership, sales, marketing, company culture, hiring A players, delegation, and the hard decisions that come with growth.

This episode is packed with valuable insight for welders, fabricators, small business owners, and entrepreneurs trying to build something bigger than themselves.

Topics include:

• Growing from a small welding shop into a national company • Why sales and marketing matter more than most shop owners realize • Hiring A players and building strong culture • Learning to delegate and stop micromanaging • The pressure of payroll, growth, and leadership • Work life balance while building a business • How PWI became a leader in cranes and manufacturing support systems

If you're trying to grow your business, lead a team, or learn from real conversations with people in the trenches, this episode is for you.

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