In this episode, Laura and Kate do not sing at you. YOU'RE WELCOME. 

Instead, they continue the discussion about different types of work environments, this time looking at how it's different when you're working on a B2B product vs a B2C product. 

Drink Pairing: Mulled Cider with Brandy

In this episode, Kate and Laura decide to sing for some reason. 'Tis the season for assaulting your eardrums, apparently. Anyway, I would like to just preemptively apologize for this, and I promise we'll try not to get this drunk in the future. (We will fail at this, but it's the thought that counts, probably.) Look, at least it's short. 

Drink pairing: Whatever it is, you're gonna need a shitload of it. Did I mention we sing? Sorry, "sing". 

In this episode, Laura and Kate talk about how your job as a product manager or designer can vary based on how close you are to the company's business model. There's a framework, because of course there is. 

Drink Pairing: It's nog season, baby! 

In this episode, Kate and Laura give sketchy advice about starting your own freelancing or consulting business. Reminder: you should probably not take legal advice from drunk people on the internet. 

Drink Pairing: Whiskey Sour

In this episode, Kate and Laura argue about a very specific kind of complexity. They talk about how some features can be complicated problems while others are "just work," and then argue about why anybody might care about this distinction. Laura quotes someone she hates but who she reluctantly admits might be on to something, which really doesn't narrow it down much. 

Drink Pairing: Pisco Sours

In this week's episode, Kate and Laura reminisce about old research stories and how much better things were before. Ok, mostly they talk about what's still true of the things they learned in old research and what's changed. 

Drink Pairing: Old Fashioned

In this week's episode, Kate and Laura reveal that everything they've been saying has been a lie and they really think that statistics are lies. Ok, honestly, this is just them banging on about how not everything is for everybody again. 

Drink Pairing: It's pumpkin spice season, so enjoy bourbon and disdain for people who drink things that taste like pumpkin spice.

Kate's back! In this week's episode, Kate and Laura talk about what it means to truly be an expert in something, and how hard it can be to believe you are one. Laura admits to occasionally having doubts about something, which shocks everybody. 

Drink Pairing: Irish Affogato (This is an Irish Coffee poured over ice cream. It's a drink I invented because I am a genius.)

On this week's episode, Kate escapes from her cage, so Christina Wodtke valiantly takes her place to talk about how designers can talk to people who aren't designers. That's right. Two designers talking to each other about how they might hypothetically talk to other people. 

Drink Pairing: Gin! 

In this episode, Kate and Laura overthink everything, as usual, and discuss how to take a feature that seems simple and be a total buzzkill by showing how complicated it really is. 

Drink Pairing: Mint Juleps (because they're muddled)