My guests today are Shelby and Eli Steele.

Shelby Steele is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, and the author of many books, including 'The Content of our Character', which won him the National Book Critics Circle Award. Eli Steele, who is his son is a documentary filmmaker whose films include 'How Jack Became Black', 'What's Bugging Seth?', and 'What Killed Michael Brown?', which is the subject of today's conversation. 

The main topic of today's conversation is the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson in 2014 and all the related issues. One note here, Eli Steele is deaf but is able to lip-read over zoom. So understanding his speech might take a bit more focus than normal, but it's very worth it. I really enjoyed this conversation, and I hope you do too.

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