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What does Moses have to do with Jesus—and why does it matter for Catholics today?
In this episode of The Catholic Theology Show, host Michael Dauphinais welcomes back author, filmmaker, and Catholic convert Steve Ray for a sweeping exploration of the life of Saint Moses and his enduring significance for understanding Christ, the Church, and the Sacraments. Drawing from Scripture, Church tradition, and decades of leading pilgrimages through the Holy Land, Steve unpacks how the story of Moses serves as the foundation for understanding Jesus as the New Moses and the Christian life as a New Exodus.
Together, Michael and Steve explore the burning bush, the divine name “I AM,” the Passover, the crossing of the Red Sea, the manna in the wilderness, the Tabernacle, and the Promised Land—revealing how each points forward to Christ and finds its fulfillment in the New Covenant. The conversation also highlights how the early Church interpreted the Exodus as the pattern for Christian initiation, illuminating the biblical roots of Baptism, the Eucharist, Confession, and Holy Orders.
Along the way, Steve explains why the Old Testament is essential for understanding the New Testament, why Moses should be honored as a saint, and how the entire biblical story comes alive when viewed through the lens of typology. Whether you're new to Scripture or have studied the Bible for years, this episode offers a rich and accessible look at how God’s plan of salvation unfolds from Moses to Christ—and why the Exodus remains the defining story of every Christian journey from slavery to freedom, from death to life, and from earth to the Promised Land of heaven.
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Crossing the Tiber: A Journey to Catholicism w/Steve Ray | Ep. 128
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What does Moses have to do with Jesus—and why does it matter for Catholics today?
In this episode of The Catholic Theology Show, host Michael Dauphinais welcomes back author, filmmaker, and Catholic convert Steve Ray for a sweeping exploration of the life of Saint Moses and his enduring significance for understanding Christ, the Church, and the Sacraments. Drawing from Scripture, Church tradition, and decades of leading pilgrimages through the Holy Land, Steve unpacks how the story of Moses serves as the foundation for understanding Jesus as the New Moses and the Christian life as a New Exodus.
Together, Michael and Steve explore the burning bush, the divine name “I AM,” the Passover, the crossing of the Red Sea, the manna in the wilderness, the Tabernacle, and the Promised Land—revealing how each points forward to Christ and finds its fulfillment in the New Covenant. The conversation also highlights how the early Church interpreted the Exodus as the pattern for Christian initiation, illuminating the biblical roots of Baptism, the Eucharist, Confession, and Holy Orders.
Along the way, Steve explains why the Old Testament is essential for understanding the New Testament, why Moses should be honored as a saint, and how the entire biblical story comes alive when viewed through the lens of typology. Whether you're new to Scripture or have studied the Bible for years, this episode offers a rich and accessible look at how God’s plan of salvation unfolds from Moses to Christ—and why the Exodus remains the defining story of every Christian journey from slavery to freedom, from death to life, and from earth to the Promised Land of heaven.
Related Episodes:
Crossing the Tiber: A Journey to Catholicism w/Steve Ray | Ep. 128

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