In this Conflicted Conversation, Thomas speaks with Lorenzo Vidino, Director of the Programme on Extremism at The George Washington University.

What happens when an ideological movement is neither a terrorist organisation nor an ordinary religious group — but something in between? One of the world’s leading experts on the Muslim Brotherhood explains…

The early history of Islam in America

The first Brotherhood-linked students arriving in the U.S. in the 50s and 60s

The formation of the first American Brotherhood cells

The Brotherhood’s gradual institutional influence across the 80s and 90s

Why CAIR (the Council on American-Islamic Relations) is so controversial

Germany’s three-fold classification system and what the U.S. can learn from it

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Check out his books:

The New Muslim Brotherhood in the West (Columbia University Press, 2010)

The Closed Circle: Joining and Leaving the Muslim Brotherhood in the West (Columbia University Press, 2020).

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This episode was produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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