In this special live recording of To Save Us From Hell, Anjali Dayal and I break down the highlights (and lowlights) from the confirmation hearing for Donald Trump’s pick as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations.

Elise Stefanik, a member of Congress from New York and a staunch Donald Trump loyalist, did not project the hardcore MAGA vibes one might expect during her confirmation hearing. As Anjali and I discuss, she came across as a fairly conventional Republican—hitting many familiar GOP talking points about the United Nations but avoiding any indication that she believes the U.S. should withdraw from the UN or pursue anything particularly radical.

Our conversation was recorded live using Substack’s new livestream platform and is available wherever you listen to To Save Us From Hell, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify and right here in the Substack app. The video of our recording is below!

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